• Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
  • Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!

Agency margins in "current climate" ...

Collapse
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    #81
    Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
    The very idea that you are not fully committed to a contract that you have signed up to sais a lot about your character and I have to say that you are not the sort of person that I would want to employ.
    If I were your agent I would dump you now before you caused any further trouble.

    There are plenty more where you came from - anyone can read a few books from Microsoft and operate a point and click development tool.
    It seems that everyone thinks that the world owes them a living these days. If you had a PhD, hot C++ and were a master in algorithmic trading systems then you may have a case. However you are one step up from desktop support and there are thousands of your likes for every role that becomes available.

    PZZ
    ok, so when you posted the above assuming that I am not fully committed and then attacking my skills unjustifiably, you lost the intellectual arguement? All I did was elaborate in your silly accusations which you then failed to respond to. If anything you lowered me to your level. But that's ok you just carry on jumping to conclusions about people. More fool you

    Comment


      #82
      Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
      Its been said that if someone has to resort to juvenile abuse on a BB in a futile final attempt to get their point across, then said person has lost the intellectual argument long ago. The fact that you have had to stoop this low twice now only goes to illustrate my earlier point regarding you personality if it was ever needed.

      Ive no doubt that you will continue to do well out of contracting on your 200pd as you say until the agent kicks you out for being a pain in the ass.

      Anyway, until then, good luck and goodbye to you sais I.

      PZZ
      Oh my God, I hope I never have to work with contractors who are utter morons like you...

      Comment


        #83
        Originally posted by Ruse View Post
        Oh my God, I hope I never have to work with contractors who are utter morons like you...
        The consensus sais that this guy brought it on himself.

        After all, why would a world class developer with brilliant communications skills, but is unable to negotiate a simple rate increase and who is on as much as 200pd need to post here??


        I suppose that even this simple reply will get you both back on here whingeing like a couple of biatches......


        PZZ

        Comment


          #84
          Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
          The consensus sais that this guy brought it on himself.

          After all, why would a world class developer with brilliant communications skills, but is unable to negotiate a simple rate increase and who is on as much as 200pd need to post here??


          I suppose that even this simple reply will get you both back on here whingeing like a couple of biatches......
          PZZ
          Nice ... who is stooping low now PZZ.... Showing your colours.

          You just don't get it do you! I did try to negotiate but this Agent was unwilling to budge at all. So I go back to my original point that Agents are more concerned with extracting large margins than they are giving contractors/clients a fair deal... greed and profits put before people ... exactly how the banks have behaved which enabled the credit bubble to form and look where they are now. So far they have sponged around £1 trillion off the taxpayer (Moneyweek) in the UK alone and I believe they have sponged a further £50 billion today. Are they winners or losers PZZ ?

          Comment


            #85
            Originally posted by hgllgh View Post
            Nice ... who is stooping low now PZZ.... Showing your colours.

            You just don't get it do you! I did try to negotiate but this Agent was unwilling to budge at all. So I go back to my original point that Agents are more concerned with extracting large margins than they are giving contractors/clients a fair deal... greed and profits put before people ... exactly how the banks have behaved which enabled the credit bubble to form and look where they are now. So far they have sponged around £1 trillion off the taxpayer (Moneyweek) in the UK alone and I believe they have sponged a further £50 billion today. Are they winners or losers PZZ ?
            Oh you mean that Agents are running a business?? Funny, that never dawned on me, thanks for pointing that revelation out.

            Would it not be better to ask the end client to double your rate?? After all they are the ones that think you and your agent are only worth 300pd together?? Seems to me this is the real source of your financial woes not the agent.

            To answer your final point, no, you are the loser. I dont give a toss how much the UK gets screwed, I left many years ago.

            Finally, may I point out that it was not greed that caused the failure of the banking system, but incompetence- bankers were not able to comprehend the risk they were taking on nor did they have any idea how to value said so called toxic instruments.

            PZZ

            Comment


              #86
              Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
              Oh you mean that Agents are running a business?? Funny, that never dawned on me, thanks for pointing that revelation out.

              Would it not be better to ask the end client to double your rate?? After all they are the ones that think you and your agent are only worth 300pd together?? Seems to me this is the real source of your financial woes not the agent.

              To answer your final point, no, you are the loser. I dont give a toss how much the UK gets screwed, I left many years ago.

              Finally, may I point out that it was not greed that caused the failure of the banking system, but incompetence- bankers were not able to comprehend the risk they were taking on nor did they have any idea how to value said so called toxic instruments.

              PZZ
              Phew thank fk for that, don't hurry back mate...

              Comment


                #87
                Originally posted by Ruse View Post
                Phew thank fk for that, don't hurry back mate...
                Why would I want to?? You are welcome to it.....

                PZZ

                Comment


                  #88
                  Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
                  Oh you mean that Agents are running a business?? Funny, that never dawned on me, thanks for pointing that revelation out.
                  You're welcome PZZ Just dont forget, their business practice leans towards greed and profits before people.

                  Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
                  Would it not be better to ask the end client to double your rate?? After all they are the ones that think you and your agent are only worth 300pd together?? Seems to me this is the real source of your financial woes not the agent.
                  When you say you left the UK, did you mean you left planet earth because clearly you do not live in the real world.

                  Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
                  To answer your final point, no, you are the loser. I dont give a toss how much the UK gets screwed, I left many years ago.
                  Stooping low again PZZ ... We have talked about this haven't we

                  Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
                  Finally, may I point out that it was not greed that caused the failure of the banking system, but incompetence- bankers were not able to comprehend the risk they were taking on nor did they have any idea how to value said so called toxic instruments.
                  PZZ
                  Yeh, I agree to an extent, but whatever way you look at it if they were not able to comprehend the risk they were taking on then they shouldn't really have taken that risk on. But there are plenty of other examples like self cert mortgages and lending practices that created the housing bubble. Just a bull run in a china shop in the end

                  Comment


                    #89
                    Originally posted by hgllgh View Post
                    You're welcome PZZ Just dont forget, their business practice leans towards greed and profits before people.



                    When you say you left the UK, did you mean you left planet earth because clearly you do not live in the real world.


                    Stooping low again PZZ ... We have talked about this haven't we


                    Yeh, I agree to an extent, but whatever way you look at it if they were not able to comprehend the risk they were taking on then they shouldn't really have taken that risk on. But there are plenty of other examples like self cert mortgages and lending practices that created the housing bubble. Just a bull run in a china shop in the end
                    Funny old world isnt it.

                    By and large, the end client has the biggest influence on the rate that can be offered to a contractor BTW. If they are not willing to pay more than 50ph for a set of skills, there is no way the contractor will get the 100ph he wants, regardless of the cut the agent takes.

                    PZZ

                    PZZ

                    Comment


                      #90
                      Originally posted by hgllgh View Post
                      Originally Posted by pzz76077
                      Finally, may I point out that it was not greed that caused the failure of the banking system, but incompetence- bankers were not able to comprehend the risk they were taking on nor did they have any idea how to value said so called toxic instruments.
                      PZZ

                      Rubbish - it was nothing but greed and more greed that caused the failure of the banking system - nothing else. But let's not get started on that...
                      ______________________
                      Don't get mad...get even...

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X