Agency margins in "current climate" ...

[SameOldStory]

Now you are definitely an agency playing at being a contractor and tbh I couldn't find anything in your posting history to convince me otw.

I think that's both offensive and lazy.

Attacking anybody whose opinion differs from yours by suggesting they are an agent seems like a diversionary tactic.

Suggesting you've read my posting history and it points to me being an agent is ludicrous. I suppose I'm an agent who uses SJD accountancy and answers the odd technical questions. Or did you just read my posts in this thread and the one about the person lying on their CV?

[George Parr]

clients dont have time to trawl through the squllions of cv's this would attract.

Then they could use the method that agents use - open the first dozen replies and select the best four for interview. Should take about twenty minutes max.

[singhr]

Then they could use the method that agents use - open the first dozen replies and select the best four for interview. Should take about twenty minutes max.

I like your style George

[Spacecadet]

Then they could use the method that agents use - open the first dozen replies and select the best four for interview. Should take about twenty minutes max.

Indeed, agents don't have the time to go through squillions of CV's either!

[hgllgh]

The very idea that you are not fully committed to a contract that you have signed up to sais a lot about your character

If you can go through my posts and pull something out that indicates that I am not committed to a contract then fair enough but there isn't. ... Also its "says", not sais

and I have to say that you are not the sort of person that I would want to employ.

fine, you are certainly not the sort of person I would want to work with

If I were your agent I would dump you now before you caused any further trouble.

No you wouldn't because I signed the crappy rate contract so you couldn't dump me, especially as the client really likes me now

There are plenty more where you came from - anyone can read a few books from Microsoft and operate a point and click development tool.
It seems that everyone thinks that the world owes them a living these days. If you had a PhD, hot C++ and were a master in algorithmic trading systems then you may have a case. However you are one step up from desktop support and there are thousands of your likes for every role that becomes available.
PZZ

You cerebral reprobate. I really can't be bothered to explain to you what makes a good developer with many years experience valueable to an end client. If you really think that its just a case of pointing and clicking a development tool after reading a few Microsoft books then you really do not have a clue and I would be wasting my time on you.

Anyway this is kind of besides the original point of the thread. In my view, if an agency attempts to secure large margins at the expense of the contractor undertaking the work then it borders on unethical business practice. In the future I for one will be directing all of my energy into securing direct contracts to aviod this sort of nonsense.

[pzz76077]

If you can go through my posts and pull something out that indicates that I am not committed to a contract then fair enough but there isn't. ... Also its "says", not sais


fine, you are certainly not the sort of person I would want to work with




No you wouldn't because I signed the crappy rate contract so you couldn't dump me, especially as the client really likes me now



You cerebral reprobate. I really can't be bothered to explain to you what makes a good developer with many years experience valueable to an end client. If you really think that its just a case of pointing and clicking a development tool after reading a few Microsoft books then you really do not have a clue and I would be wasting my time on you.

Anyway this is kind of besides the original point of the thread. In my view, if an agency attempts to secure large margins at the expense of the contractor undertaking the work then it borders on unethical business practice. In the future I for one will be directing all of my energy into securing direct contracts to aviod this sort of nonsense.

Everything about you sais bad attitude, if you didnt like the rate why did you sign the contract??

A good developer is one that gets on with their work and is not constantly beating themselves up all day about why they didnt speak up with some professional honesty and say that the rate wasn't high enough and now wants more. Someone remind me never to take a cheque from this guy!

Agencies have sharholders just like any other company, if an agent didnt make them as much money as he possibly could he would be neglecting his legal and moral duty he owes them. It is the shareholders that folk like him are answerable to, not you.

PZZ

PZZ

[hgllgh]

if an agent didnt make them as much money as he possibly could he would be neglecting his legal and moral duty

Could not have sais it better myself. Precisely why both clients and contractors should make every effort to eliminate agents from the whole process.

Anyway, apparently we are all going to cop it in 2012 so whats the point

[pzz76077]

Could not have sais it better myself. Precisely why both clients and contractors should make every effort to eliminate agents from the whole process.

Anyway, apparently we are all going to cop it in 2012 so whats the point

Agents are no different to any other employee. When was the last time you heard of a permie at co x getting a pat on the back for making co x's shareholders less money than he could of done??

Some will be well out of it by 2012 anyway it this thread is a gauge of contractors attitudes these days.

PZZ

[jmo21]

Could not have sais it better myself. Precisely why both clients and contractors should make every effort to eliminate agents from the whole process.

Anyway, apparently we are all going to cop it in 2012 so whats the point

You keep saying clients should do this.

They clearly feel agents are useful, that's why they use them instead of having HR (or other emplyees) deal direct with us.

Clearly, they feel is it is a justifiable cost.

[pzz76077]

You keep saying clients should do this.

They clearly feel agents are useful, that's why they use them instead of having HR (or other emplyees) deal direct with us.

Clearly, they feel is it is a justifiable cost.

Its staggering how may contractors have no comprehension whatsoever of the market space they operate in.

I wonder how many Lawyers would get very far without knowing about the Judicial process??

PZZ