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Investment Banking: Quit Perm -> Contract?

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    #11
    Originally posted by Not So Wise View Post
    Anyone thinking of leaving a good permi job to go contracting in the current state of the market needs their head examined
    Agree to a point and only to a point - it is especially hard to get the 1st contract, obviously given the current market, but also due to the switching of mindsets from perm to contract, perception to potential clients, notice periods etc etc (check other posts on this site).

    Why I say to a point - if you have stand out CV with USPs (see my post yesterday) that really stand out, there is no reason why to not give contracting a go - but DO bear in mind you could be looking for 2 weeks, 2 months, 6 months etc (who knows), so make sure that the money tree in your backgarden is in full bloom...

    It depends on how big a risk you want to take compared to your needs or desires to move to the other side. Do however, follow what your gut instinct tells you to do. Best of luck.
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      #12
      Hang on in there until you are thrown out; don't jump.
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        #13
        Originally posted by HairyArsedBloke View Post
        Hang on in there until you are thrown out; don't jump.
        I dont agree with this at all. From my point of view if you are young and on a mediocre salary then I d say the risk of contracting is not as high as people might have you believe.

        I m starting out for the first time and left a 65K perm salary with all the extras to do a contract.

        If it all blows up I am pretty confident I could get a similar job to the one I left at 60-65K.

        In my opinion it is worth the risk.

        Now if I was on a 100k perm, doing something very niche, had a wife and kids that would be a different story

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          #14
          Originally posted by SteveMcadden1 View Post
          I dont agree with this at all. From my point of view if you are young and on a mediocre salary then I d say the risk of contracting is not as high as people might have you believe.

          I m starting out for the first time and left a 65K perm salary
          Your implication being that 65K perm is in the "mediocre" range?

          Hmmmm....maybe I need to look at this Investment Banking lark in more detail.
          Last edited by EddieNambulous; 16 August 2009, 09:09.

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            #15
            Originally posted by EddieNambulous View Post
            Your implication being that 65K perm is in the "mediocre" range?

            Hmmmm....maybe I need to look at this Investment Banking lark in more detail.
            Take out tax and student loans and you get 3300 at the end of the month which is 40K a year.

            By contracting on 400 a day and not taking out any salary I can take home 70K...

            And I also realise that 400 per day is not great but its a foot in the door and next year I ll push for 450

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              #16
              Spot on SteveMcadden1. I am on 40k salary(banking) and in really bad situation with absolute no savings. Also have to train/teach incompetent guys (on top of heavy workload) who get paid more than me for some reason.

              I am desperately trying to get back to contracting again.Could you please tell me how did you manage notice period requirements (4 weeks ) ?Recruiters always prefer someone who is available immediately.

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                #17
                Originally posted by contractTopermie View Post
                Spot on SteveMcadden1. I am on 40k salary(banking) and in really bad situation with absolute no savings. Also have to train/teach incompetent guys (on top of heavy workload) who get paid more than me for some reason.

                I am desperately trying to get back to contracting again.Could you please tell me how did you manage notice period requirements (4 weeks ) ?Recruiters always prefer someone who is available immediately.
                This should be possible.
                All you do is have 2 weeks holiday saved up. Then you only have to work 2 weeks right? Well at almost all places and this should include any Bank, you can take unpaid leave of 1 week or at least be able to buy back a week.

                This leaves 1 weeks notice. Most clients will stretch to 1 week. And thus as you can see, you can walk out of your permi job in 1 week. This is why some nasty banks brought in the 3 month notice periods.

                Until they worked out they would have to pay 3 months when they wanted to get rid of someone

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                  #18
                  contracting is more a lifestyle choice where you plan to work for a while
                  and then take long breaks, also your aim is to build up a network of clients
                  so then you can either get other contacts or sub contractors to do the work.

                  anybody benchmarking contractor rates with permie salary is comparing
                  apples with oranges.

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                    #19
                    Don't quit until you have an offer. Now lets say your notice period did become a problem, at least you know that you can get a contract, and just angle another one. Generally though 1 months notice is not a problem. I'm a contractor, and I always look for contracts before my current contract has ended. Sometimes you find they'll take several weeks maybe more before they deicide on someone, 2 weeks here or there won't make a difference. Don't resign though until your very confident you are going to walk into something.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by EddieNambulous View Post
                      Your implication being that 65K perm is in the "mediocre" range?

                      Hmmmm....maybe I need to look at this Investment Banking lark in more detail.
                      Dont do it. There is a reason so much money is involved.

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