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We all talk about it but what is the right rate

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    #21
    I don't know where those astronomical figures are coming from, but my wife and I get by on £75 a day at the moment.

    Although that does not include holidays & clothes but everything else.

    I'm over £500 a day at the moment. I think if you want to make money you not only look for a higher rate but you must stop spending it on the frivolous.

    We eat out a lot I'd say but neither of us drinks or smokes,
    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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      #22
      Hmmm all this talk of £500 per day.... I must not be getting paid enough!!!

      Better than nothing though I guess...

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        #23
        An "I'm not getting out of bed for < £500" attitude can quickly cost you more income than accepting a lower rate and pushing hard for more money at every opportunity.
        Cats are evil.

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          #24
          Forget it..

          All this discussion is academic.

          Its a market.

          Depends on supply and demand.

          No one is going to pay to your life style (particularly when they don't know you).

          With the push on offshoring - the rate is heading south.

          Want to find out the right rate...?...

          Then look at it from the buyers perspective.

          Porters five forces are a hint (including barriers to entry).

          That is what you are worth - unless you can get a competive edge (i.e. are a known entity).

          My 2 c's.

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            #25
            Typically my rate is circa 420-450 per diem - however there are factors such as the duration and location of the project which influences the Rate.
            Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 13 July 2009, 13:58.

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              #26
              £500?? More like half that is the "minimum" to make contracting "worth the effort"

              If you NEED £500 per day you seriously need to look at your expenditure/debts and stop "trying to keep up with the Joneses", Better to hold on to that money and retire earlier

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                #27
                Originally posted by Not So Wise View Post
                £500?? More like half that is the "minimum" to make contracting "worth the effort"

                If you NEED £500 per day you seriously need to look at your expenditure/debts and stop "trying to keep up with the Joneses", Better to hold on to that money and retire earlier

                One needs to know ones worth, I have no debts and my expenditure is moderate.

                However, I have realities such as Health Care, Pension etc that I need to address, hence the question.

                BTW: How the fark are the Joneses
                Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.

                Patience is something you admire in the driver behind you and scorn in the one ahead.

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                  #28
                  I think this is an important point - plus, paradoxically, having a very low rate implies to them that there's something wrong somewhere and they'll be wary of using you.
                  Not necessarily.

                  Some will take the view that if Mr X can do it for say, £130 a day, and Mr Y wants £300+ a day, where is the incentive to use Mr Y ?

                  It may be that Mr X is just as technically competent as Mr Y, however he doesn't have the overheads of living that Mr Y has, and can accordingly pitch his rates to be client-friendly. Perhaps Mr X does it because he wants to ensure that he a greater chance of survival in the marketplace by undercutting his rivals.

                  £130 a day is better than £0 a day, capice ?
                  Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

                  C.S. Lewis

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Board Game Geek View Post
                    Not necessarily.

                    Some will take the view that if Mr X can do it for say, £130 a day, and Mr Y wants £300+ a day, where is the incentive to use Mr Y ?
                    Well, that bit of info I quoted about not letting your rate go too low came from an agent "friend" of mine from a few months back. i.e. someone not with a vested interest in slanting the information

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                      #30
                      Mr X can do it for say, £130 a day, and Mr Y wants £300+ a day, where is the incentive to use Mr Y

                      With that logic then would you be happy for your employer to offer you a fifty per cent pay cut - on the basis that there is a Mr X ready to take your job ?

                      It seems to me this is a prime example of ever decreasing circles ... what about Mr Z who is happy to work for 50 quid a day ? etc

                      On that basis - why dont top football clubs hire new players at 150 quid a day - sure theres plenty of Mr X's out there who would oblige ?

                      You cannot discard a candidates skills and experience when determining the rate - you say Mr X can do it for 130 a day - in all probablity he lacks the experience and skillset onthe job resulting in a unhappy client.

                      Therres an old saying - if you pay peanuts - you get monkeys.
                      Last edited by AlfredJPruffock; 13 July 2009, 17:13.

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