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    #11
    Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
    Earlier this year I had a contract terminated (with the contractual notice period) by my client 3 weeks before it was due to end. Was my client "being professional"?
    Yes.
    My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
      Yes.
      In which case it should also be seen as "professional" for a contractor to leave half way through a contract, as long as they have given their contractual notice (normally a month I guess) is it not?

      But the earlier poster SvalBaard suggests that doing that is not professional.

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        #13
        Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
        In which case it should also be seen as "professional" for a contractor to leave half way through a contract, as long as they have given their contractual notice (normally a month I guess) is it not?

        But the earlier poster SvalBaard suggests that doing that is not professional.
        That's right. You've got it.

        The contractor terminating the contract during the first term is unprofessional.

        The client terminating the contract during the first term is why they employed a contractor.

        That's why we get paid extra. We are better than them.

        Once into the extensions, that's another matter ... anyone can give notice.

        That is also why a 24 month fixed term contract on perm salary is so awful.
        My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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          #14
          Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
          That's right. You've got it.

          The contractor terminating the contract during the first term is unprofessional.

          The client terminating the contract during the first term is why they employed a contractor.

          That's why we get paid extra. We are better than them.

          Once into the extensions, that's another matter ... anyone can give notice.

          That is also why a 24 month fixed term contract on perm salary is so awful.
          Well, as a matter of fact I have seen some companies terminating the contracts during the first term itself.

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            #15
            Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
            That's right. You've got it.

            The contractor terminating the contract during the first term is unprofessional.

            The client terminating the contract during the first term is why they employed a contractor.

            That's why we get paid extra. We are better than them.

            Once into the extensions, that's another matter ... anyone can give notice.

            That is also why a 24 month fixed term contract on perm salary is so awful.
            OK so you think an uneven arrangement is OK?
            I don't know.

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              #16
              Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
              OK so you think an uneven arrangement is OK?
              I don't know.
              You are a service provider. You are extremely well paid. Part of the deal is the flexibility that you give clients. if you believe that the relationship is one of "equality" you should not be contracting, you should be part of a trade union working as a permie.
              Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                #17
                Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                You are a service provider. You are extremely well paid. Part of the deal is the flexibility that you give clients. if you believe that the relationship is one of "equality" you should not be contracting, you should be part of a trade union working as a permie.
                You've been looking at my invoices again Mr DA

                But yes your point makes sense.

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                  #18
                  Lucy/Sarah has obviously decided not to come back after a couple of days!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
                    OK so you think an uneven arrangement is OK?
                    I don't know.
                    Yes. That's why I want three times as much money as a contract PM as my permie colleagues will be getting.

                    To make up for the time on the bench, the training, the LtdCo running costs, the time spent doing poxy paperwork for the government and ... to compensate me for the risk associated with uncertainty.

                    If I am running a project and see it needs to be terminated early or there is a quick way of achieving the same end, I will tell management and explain why. If so instructed, I will then wrap it up and leave, saving the client a small fortune and making them feel happy with me. I'm probably stupid, but it's what I do.

                    A permie would then be given something else to do; I'm back on the bench. I expect a higher rate for that kind of integrity and its consequences.

                    But part of the service I offer is that if the budget disappears, or the programme is terminated, or if the weather changes (there's a story behind that), I will clear off without complaint.
                    My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by marlon View Post
                      Lucy/Sarah has obviously decided not to come back after a couple of days!
                      Typical agent - gives hope that a job is available, then never makes contact again! Perhaps we should have given 2 references each???
                      Speaking gibberish on internet talkboards since last Michaelmas. Plus here on Twitter

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