Oh dear!

[ASB]

To be honest, I haven't been told how long the contract is for. I am still waiting for that detail to come through.

However, I don't see where you are coming from on the basic salary front.

I think the point being made is that if the contract is worth - say 10k - and your annual salary is £9500 anyway then IR35 isn't an issue irrespective of whether the contract is caught or not since actual salary = deemed salary.

[tim123]

If I am inside IR35, it would make it a lot harder for me to afford the cost as I would have to pay tax on 95% of my income, which means my take home pay would a lot less than if I were outside IR35. I would be over £700 worse off inside IR35. That is a lot of money I cannot afford to lose. The rate would be ok, if it were outside IR35.

you don't understand IR35 do you.

Your travel/accom costs are deductable

tim

[pmeswani]

you don't understand IR35 do you.

Your travel/accom costs are deductable

tim

the 5% that isn't tax deducted, won't cover a fraction of the costs. So explain it to me, please.

[thunderlizard]

If you do see Fujitsu again, tell them that those chubby green plastic clips they have inside their PCs instead of PCI-slot-screws are great BUT ONLY IF THEY SEND YOU SOME INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE THEM.

Anyway, you shouldn't give up on the IR35 negotiation. Of course they all have a "policy" of not deviating from the standard contract, but if the agent is (a) desperate for his commission and/or (b) good at flirting with the girls in the legal department, changes will get made. Can't you bung Abbey a few hundred quid to do the talking for you?

[pmeswani]

If you do see Fujitsu again, tell them that those chubby green plastic clips they have inside their PCs instead of PCI-slot-screws are great BUT ONLY IF THEY SEND YOU SOME INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO USE THEM.

Anyway, you shouldn't give up on the IR35 negotiation. Of course they all have a "policy" of not deviating from the standard contract, but if the agent is (a) desperate for his commission and/or (b) good at flirting with the girls in the legal department, changes will get made. Can't you bung Abbey a few hundred quid to do the talking for you?

Don't tell me you haven't bought one of those hot-melt devices?

Are you willing to give me the few hundred quid?

To be honest, regardless of my current financial situation, I am prepared to walk away from the contract if I don't get an IR35 friendly contract.

[thunderlizard]

Are you willing to give me the few hundred quid?

If I thought your company was a sound and creditworty investment I would. So no

To be honest, regardless of my current financial situation, I am prepared to walk away from the contract if I don't get an IR35 friendly contract.

that is the first rule of negotiation. Never actually care about the outcome. Psychological edge guaranteed.

[deckster]

the 5% that isn't tax deducted, won't cover a fraction of the costs. So explain it to me, please.

Travel and accommodation are allowable expenses under IR35. You can claim them in addition to the 5%.

[MPwannadecentincome]

With permie roles, I would restrict myself to where I will work (location wise). Also, I would set my salary expectations according to where the role is, and how much my outgoings will be.

And the advantage of a permie role is that when you have to travel it is paid for by the employer not from your gross salary.

[pmeswani]

And the advantage of a permie role is that when you have to travel it is paid for by the employer not from your gross salary.

And the advantage of being a contractor is that I get my company to pay for my travel to the client site. Not many permie employees gets their travel to work paid for by their employer.

[MPwannadecentincome]

And the advantage of being a contractor is that I get my company to pay for my travel to the client site. Not many permie employees gets their travel to work paid for by their employer.

I thought you were worried about paying for the accommodation yourself?