Need opinion on IT jobs in UK for HSMP

[DodgyAgent]

I love the reactions these threads get... As it were I am in the UK on an HSMP visa, originally from Canada, I suppose most on this forum would like to see me leave or removed from the UK. Interesting though, there are more UK citizens living and working in Canada than Canadians living and working in the UK. Do you suppose they should all be shipped back here? In essence that would hinder the UK market in its current state more than help. I guess it could be good for me as it would be easier to find a role in Canada..

In any case skilled migration is important to any country and globalisation has ensured that a transient workforce is here to stay. If you can’t find a role here move somewhere where you can, fortunately or unfortunately that is the new paradigm.

So who is being allowed into India to work on IT systems? Is it worth my while setting up business to ship in cheap Java developers from Nigeria?
And whilst you are quite right in your point about mobility of labour why is it that Britain is one of the few countries that encourages it from non white countries? what really pisses me off is that all these little whingers expect the UK to give them a living, many od who scream "racist" when anyone objects. Yet these people themselves come from and support the nastiest little racist protectionist regimes on the planet

[HairyArsedBloke]

Hi All,
I need opinion from fellow contractors already working in UK. I am a j2ee architect with 8 years of industry experience. I have worked in Germany for 2 years. Considering current job scenario in UK, what are my chances of finding a contract job there. Given that I can obtain HSMP on my own (still ₤600 costing in India). What are my chances of securing a contract in UK as Sr. J2EE consultant? will my chances of job increase if I already have HSMP before approaching any of the agencies? or should I wait for few months till econimical conditions are better. btw I am currently employed. thanks a lot for your advice in adavce.

Disclaimer: I dont belive in taking away jobs from locals, its just that I will have better work to do in UK than India. )

Offer that to any random Labour MP and you'll have a work permit by return of post.

[swamp]

Given that I can obtain HSMP on my own (still ₤600 costing in India).

Mrs Swamp had to pay £800 for her HSMP. Sounds like you have a bargain at £600. Maybe Indians get a discount....?

Frankly if you are an experienced Java architect then you would not be worried about £600.

[max]

Hi All,
I need opinion from fellow contractors already working in UK. I am a j2ee architect with 8 years of industry experience. I have worked in Germany for 2 years. Considering current job scenario in UK, what are my chances of finding a contract job there. Given that I can obtain HSMP on my own (still ₤600 costing in India). What are my chances of securing a contract in UK as Sr. J2EE consultant? will my chances of job increase if I already have HSMP before approaching any of the agencies? or should I wait for few months till econimical conditions are better. btw I am currently employed. thanks a lot for your advice in adavce.

What sort of daily rate are you looking for?

Out of interest, what would you get as a contractor in India?

[swamp]

Out of interest, what would you get as a contractor in India?

Maybe something like this?

[Turion]

It is not Canadian, US. Euro or Australian workers that are the issue. They largely compete on the same terms as us and have the same values as us both monatory and culturally. Similarly we can and do go to work in their countries as they do ours.

The third world, low rate imports are the problem. These guys (rather their sponser companies) ultimately threaten to export by stealth our entire knowledge industry.

[swamp]

The third world, low rate imports are the problem. These guys (rather their sponser companies) ultimately threaten to export by stealth our entire knowledge industry.

We don't need a knowledge industry; we've got media studies and fashion.

[PM-Junkie]

It is not Canadian, US. Euro or Australian workers that are the issue.

Actually, I've known a couple of Australians who have a few issues

[bobspud]

That’s fine, you are entitled to an opinion, I suspect many Canadian's feel the same about Brits in Canada. That said I would argue that if all of the expats from western countries picked up and when back to their home country tomorrow it would largely be a wash and there would still be just as many unemployed people are there are today, we are in a global recession after all. Now that can not likely be said about expats from the south as there are a disproportionate number of these citizens in western countries.

It’s very possible the visa system will work the way it is designed, it is possible the rules will change or I will not meet the criteria when my visa expires and I will have to leave, I have seen this happen to some people, usually lower skilled or lower paid immigrants mind you. If I hit the bench maybe I’ll move back to Canada, or maybe go and work in Australia again. Many of you have the possibility to work overseas or anywhere in the EU for that matter, why not take the opportunity when/if you have the chance?

Your home land would have every right to feel aggrieved about excess incomers taking work from locals. You have to think about this from a different view. If a UK chap sits on a bench and cant find a job. Eventually they end up on benefits. If things get worse then they may lose their home then that's even more strain on our system. If you are out of work, then as you say there are a few countries you can pick and choose from.
The migrant workforce are mostly single young people so its easy for them to up sticks.

Many UK contractors don't have the opportunities for migration based work due to the fact they have children in schools and elderly parents so its not as easy as it sounds...

[xpscapable]

Many UK contractors don't have the opportunities for migration based work due to the fact they have children in schools and elderly parents so its not as easy as it sounds...

There are many of what you called "migrant workers" are now firmly planted in the UK. Plenty of us have wife, children and/or have our entire life in the UK these days.

Like you, many of us can't simply move back to where we originally come from.