i will get you the best rate

**Ardesco** · 27 December 2008, 09:13

With a permie role they normally get a percentage of your first years annual pay if you stay with the company for a set period of time as far as I'm aware.

For permie roles it is in their interest to get you as high a wage as possible.

**VectraMan** · 27 December 2008, 10:41

Back when I used to do this sort of thing (i.e. hire permies, not be an agent), they'd work on 20-30% of salary increasing at set points. So not only do they get more the more they get you, the percentage increases the more they get you too.

**BolshieBastard** · 27 December 2008, 17:59

Originally posted by touche View Post

when agents tell you this on the phone "i will negotiate and get you the best rate i possibly can" for contracts, i think we know it's all not true.... but when being considered for a permie role, is it different? do the agents really get paid a percentage of your salary one time up front?

TBF that's not entirely true. I cant be the only one who's actually got a higher rate then asked for on a couple of jobs. And I also know for a fact on at least one of those jobs, I got the same as all the other contractors when I'd actually stated about £80 per day less. Therate paid was £380 a day excluding VAT.

**NickFitz** · 28 December 2008, 04:08

Going direct with a client, I got a contract specifying a higher rate than I'd asked for. On raising this point with the chap responsible, he just laughed and said "I've found that if you pay people more than they ask for, they tend to like working for you."

**VectraMan** · 28 December 2008, 09:18

Originally posted by NickFitz View Post

Going direct with a client, I got a contract specifying a higher rate than I'd asked for. On raising this point with the chap responsible, he just laughed and said "I've found that if you pay people more than they ask for, they tend to like working for you."

And that client was....

**JoJoGabor** · 3 January 2009, 23:17

Agents will sometimes try to get you to agree to be put forward for a lower salary if they know they are in competition with other agencies, so that their candidates are more competitive.

**TheFaQQer** · 5 January 2009, 11:48

Originally posted by VectraMan View Post

And that client was....

And do they need an Oracle developer???

**pmeswani** · 5 January 2009, 12:06

Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post

And do they need an Oracle developer???

Or a Security Analyst?

**Advocate** · 5 January 2009, 12:29

Originally posted by pmeswani View Post

Or 2 Security Analysts?

i will get you the best rate