Permie & Contracting at same time

[VectraMan]

That is quite appalling advice. Even if there are no conflicts of interest and it genuinely doesn't impact your main IBM work (do they never phone you during the day?), there are major potential issues with IPR. If there's the slightest hint that what you are doing with your other client in any way overlaps or even uses the same skillset you use at IBM you would be treading on very thin ice.

Yes but any IPR resulting out of contract work wouldn't be yours anyway. You'd almost certainly have a contract that gave all rights to the client, so it would be difficult for your employer to claim ownership. They could perhaps try to charge the client for your time though.

The problem with asking them is that they may say no, and then you're screwed. I'd be inclined to take the keeping it quiet option, but that's a personal decision about your attitude to risk.

[deckster]

This is the real world fella - Ive always done this and kept it totally separate.

If you are really that stupid enough to let them both be aware of each other - you deserve being caught anyway. But lets be really serious for the second - what are the chances of him doing something IPR related and that IBM would want?!.

True enough and I can't argue with any of that. However I maintain that just saying 'do it, it will be fine' isn't good advice. That may well be what the OP decides to do (and probably what I'd do too) but he needs to be aware of the legalities and what potentially might go wrong.

It's sort of like saying 'don't worry about that IR35 crap, they'll never know'. For a good percentage of people it's probably true, but it's the kind of decision you want to make only when you're armed with all the facts.

[d000hg]

IBM will definitely have a clause precluding this.

If you can really do it at weekends, out of hours then there is no reason for them to know though.

If you send even a single email from your work PC, they may catch it. Of course, they would be very unlikely to find it unless they had suspicions to start with.

[DiscoStu]

Just something to bear in mind - while working for IBM a colleague of mine got binned pretty much immediately for taking a contract for OOH support. Partly his own fault for talking about it, and someone else's for grassing him up.

You won't get agreement from HR to change the standard contract, if you're going to do it I suggest you keep it very very quiet.

[itcontractor07]

Thanks all of you, for you advice.

I haven't still asked either of them, but I will try to check with IBM if they can do this on paper, b'cos my client does not have any problem. Worst case I will have to weight out my options in terms of risks etc..and ofcourse what sort of diff in terms of money..etc

Cheers