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HOw quickly into a call do you know you're just being fished?

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    HOw quickly into a call do you know you're just being fished?

    I'm starting to recognise some similarities between all the fishing calls I'm getting, namely:

    1. The job spec is very hazy and even changes during the conversation - eg:

    Pimp - "I got your CV and wondered if you were interested in a CCNA/CCNP"

    Me - "Can I just stop you there, I wouldn't really consider myself for and put myself forward for a more senior network role"

    Pimp - "Oh no it's a windows role looking after AD/exchange and [insert most of the opening paragraph of my CV]"

    2. They ask you what your rate is and quote you a fair bit above ending the question with "how does that sound?"

    3. They might ask you more questions about your preferred type of role, where your ideal location etc then as if by magic

    "Well this role is [insert the ideal role you just told them] based in [ideal location/down the road from where you live]"... "how does that sound?"

    4. When they've got you in 'too good to be true' mode they start on the urgency. They might tell you that they haven't posted the ad up yet but came across your CV in their database and thought they'd get you in early.

    They will also say that the client is interviewing in the next few days so they'd like to get your CV over ASAP.

    So with you all excited about this absolutely perfect role just 5 minutes down the road that is paying over your usual rate they'll start the fishing questions, usually in this order:

    "Just so we know what we're up against do you have any other interviews or offers at the moment?"

    If yes they obviously need as many names and details as possible.

    Then last but not least it's the old favourite:

    "Well I'm happy to forward your CV ASAP...... but before I do I just need 2....."

    Anyone got anything to add? I'm sure I missed a few.

    We only have so much time in the day to talk to pimps, especially when not on the bench and there's only so much time we can spend outside on the phone.

    Here's quite a good article I found on 'lead genning'

    Wouldn't it be nice to be able to spot it before the phone even rang so we didn't even have to answer it
    "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

    #2
    as above but...

    "i will put your forward for the role but owing to client confidentiality I cannot tell you who it is till i know you have an interview"


    cue never hearing from them ever again

    what a load of horsetulipe
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      #3
      I refuse to let anyone submit my CV without telling me who the client is first. I've had a couple of agents whine about client confidentiality, so I've said "Right, we've hit an impasse here. Let's just forget about it...." and they almost always back peddle.....
      And the lord said unto John; "come forth and receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.

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        #4
        Two words in..... "Hello mate..."
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          #5
          Originally posted by b0redom View Post
          I refuse to let anyone submit my CV without telling me who the client is first. I've had a couple of agents whine about client confidentiality, so I've said "Right, we've hit an impasse here. Let's just forget about it...." and they almost always back peddle.....
          I'd guess that it's not client confidentiality, but fear that you are actually another agent fishing.

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            #6
            What? If they call me?!
            And the lord said unto John; "come forth and receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.

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              #7
              Originally posted by b0redom View Post
              What? If they call me?!
              That's the only indicator that they're fishing you ever need.
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                #8
                Two rings in - 'cos Captain Birdseye is all I get these days!
                I'm sorry, but I'll make no apologies for this

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                  #9
                  First sentence.

                  When you answer your phone and they rattle their name and agency name out so fast that you stand no chance of catching what they are, even if they were genuine, then its a fishing call.
                  Last edited by Gonzo; 11 November 2008, 21:15. Reason: Clarity.

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                    #10
                    The other day, I got name, agency name followed by....

                    "i'm one of those agency recruitment guys"

                    needless to say it was a very short call
                    Last edited by norrahe; 11 November 2008, 20:07. Reason: speling
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