How much would it take to get you to go permie

[ft101]

Basic is 57.5k + 6.5k car allowance + 5k pension + around 5k a year bonus. So package is 70-75k gross. Six weeks holiday and another say 4 weeks with off site training and conferences. I work from home, so can be based anywhere I want, and I do a decent shift but am not overworked.

What do you do and what location, out of curiousity..

[DieScum]

At the moment I do account management for some security products. Fairly relaxed. Bit of design work, bit of support.

Based in Cardiff at the moment but could be anywhere. Got a colleague who does the job from Bangkok.

[Fred Bloggs]

> 90k for me.

However for that salary in permie-land the role is likely be so high pressured that I'd have to seriously think if it would be worth it.

And that's the problem right there

[Fred Bloggs]

If you are outside London how much does a decent senior permie job in your field pay?

Around Manchester, Lead Mechanical Engineer, about £45 to £52k tops. Or put another way, about 50% of the contract rate.

[Diver]

I'm looking to go Permie at the moment. Problem is i keep getting job offers for The Gulf. (Dubai) at the £100,000 mark
Not in IT mind. Project manager for major Marine Civil engineering contracts.
The thing is, I won't work abroad any more, had enough and like being home.

I would take the position in the UK for anything over £45,000, the problem there is that the money isn't there in the UK market.

[BolshieBastard]

Couldnt be arsed with the day to day politics of the permie office where everyone is trying to do everyone else.

The 'permies' at bank client Im with at the moment are laughable. They have to outdo each other with holidays 'Ooh, have a look at my snaps from Mexico' or 'Anyone like some of the sweeties I brought back from my holidays in Australia?'

And the car park is even better, the 'managers' try to have the newest Porsche while the saps at the bottom like to show off their new Vectra! Wow!

No thanks, I'll pass.

[Kess]

Couldnt be arsed with the day to day politics of the permie office where everyone is trying to do everyone else.

I was permie for 20 years, now a contractor for 1 year, on similar money yet free of the meetings, politics, staff management, HR nonsense, annual appraisals etc. Wouldn't go back.

[NotAllThere]

I'd require a salary ~£70 +12 weeks paid leave, plus about 50% working from home, + no more than 30mins commute, plus an agreement signed in the blood of the HR director - no appraisal, performance reviews or anything of that malarky ever.

[HermanDune]

I was permie for 20 years, now a contractor for 1 year, on similar money yet free of the meetings, politics, staff management, HR nonsense, annual appraisals etc. Wouldn't go back.

I'm a contract business manager and all I do is sit in meetings and push spreadsheets and budgets around. It's dull.

[monkeyBoy32]

Yeah - it's all about the lifestyle that contracting allows. Not saying that it's easy or anything but you're never going to get a permie job with that level of freedom.

Personally, as long as I'm clearing more than someone in a permie job on 50k I'm happy - it leaves me plenty of time to work on my house and will allow me time to spend time with my family (when it arrives next year).

I'd only consider going back to a permie job if it was stress free...