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Who knows about agency named Progressive

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    #11
    Well, this answers my question.

    More than 20% for a "permy" (a permanent employment is meant, I guess) ist incredibly much! I expect the percentage typically to be lower when earning over a longer period.

    Well I can say, that the % for agencies do range from 15% down to 8%. These figures are real values and checked be myself, because, when doing also the project management whitin a project, bills of agencies show up in the monthly cost reports like all the other bills, and if I myself am the only one in a project coming from a particulay agency, I know the hourly price my customer pays to them

    Sometimes it is unbeliveable, how much money these guys get for nearly no work. In other cases I'd also though about collecting money for them, when they had (otherwise they had had nothing) to sign contracts where less than 1000,- could be earned

    Back to "progressive" : In the german mails, the come with sentences like these

    "superb project in automotive" which finally is nothing else than basic testing of devices, other engineers have developed. I allways shun such projects, since these engineers working in the "I-like-developping-and-pass-away-testing-down-to-others" - mood, mostly produce too much bull, I have to deal with afterwards.

    What I also read in their mails : "You will gain a project with high potential at a very famous customer's who's name will bring glance to your CV, as if we experienced engineers did not know about the fact, that the large companies allways have big chaos, only give away standard work out of house and having had a project there, means nothing a all.

    They also pretend to arrange a contract between customer and consultant every 7 minutes. I wonder, who works for such companies ...

    And I wonder, who asks them for engineers ...
    Last edited by engineer; 6 July 2008, 16:22.

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      #12
      I got a gig through progressive - rate was terrible, but, needed work, and needed it quick - and it was commutable. They used Tactical for payments as they owned Tactical, hence, two cuts.

      Did not help that the client had a huge chip on shoulder about them paying a load more than the permies were getting, all in, the best recipe for a disastrous project, before we look at how incompetent the PM was.....

      Ah, fun memories!

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        #13
        Originally posted by engineer View Post
        "superb project in automotive" which finally is nothing else than basic testing of devices, other engineers have developed. I allways shun such projects, since these engineers working in the "I-like-developping-and-pass-away-testing-down-to-others" - mood, mostly produce too much bull, I have to deal with afterwards.
        Referring you to my other answer, most of the jobs that come my way, even the ones in Europe are like that.

        Getting a role with a new client, which isn't much more junior than you think you can do, seems to be very rare in the current market.

        tim

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          #14
          Depends, all of my jobs so far, had been developping new hardware and / or software so far. But you are somehow right: most of the projects, offered to me, are "repair-what-went-wrong" - projects, too.

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            #15
            Originally posted by pat25 View Post
            ...They have 28 Days payement term from the Date of Invoice ...Payment was always on time
            Back in the late 90s, they paid 3-4 days after invoice. But it was always on time.
            Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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              #16
              I've never had a problem with Progressive, either working through, or hiring from(staff or perm).

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                #17
                This bunch also have total contempt for the Data Protection Act, well at least for Section 7, as they have ignored repeated requests to release information under the provisions of the act!

                Needless to say, they probably wont ignore it once the ICO become more involved.

                W***ers the whole bunch of 'em

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                  #18
                  It came like expected: I complained about the behaviour of one of their recruiters and they stopped conversation. No phone no mail anymore.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by blacjac View Post
                    out of all the agencies we contacted, the progressive was 22.5%, the next highest was 15% and the next 3 were 12% and the other 2 10%

                    so 22.5% seems obscene to me
                    An agency can quote what it likes, but unless it delivers (I hate that word ) it does'nt matter.
                    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                      #20
                      I am currently placed in a contract through progressive.

                      I have no complaints. They got me the interview, was offered gig, now I'm here, it was explained how invoices are paid a month after being issued and that's fine with me.

                      I don't know or care what their markup is as I'm happy with the rate.

                      :-)

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