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    #21
    Originally posted by Tensai View Post
    I wouldn't advise the self-learn option unless you're really dedicated. I personally think the PRINCE2 methodology is pretty byzantine and it's a lot easier if you can get someone to take you through it.

    Not to say it can't be done, just set your expectations appropriately.

    defnitely agree with this...

    you can do the first Prince2 exam by self learning (the foundation) - its just a multi choice 50 question exam.

    but the second one (practitioner) would be much more challening to do on your own!

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      #22
      Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
      One of the three, surely?


      Often none of three!
      Don't ask Beaker. He's just another muppet.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Tensai View Post
        I wouldn't advise the self-learn option unless you're really dedicated. I personally think the PRINCE2 methodology is pretty byzantine and it's a lot easier if you can get someone to take you through it.

        Not to say it can't be done, just set your expectations appropriately.
        I'd 2nd Tensai comment, I took PRINCE2 around 4 years ago to formalise my experience and I have to say I would not contemplate taking this evening class/self-learn. Get on the course if you can, its well worth it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Xil3 View Post
          How does one get his foot in the door (refer to my original question up top as well)?
          It's really very easy, you massage or exaggerate the past couple of roles on your CV to reflect more of a technical PM stance, and then apply for PM roles with the frame of mind that you are, in fact, an experienced project manager.

          P

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            #25
            ...or you could be a PM for over 10 years, take an MBA, follow that up with a PMP - then sit back and giggle at what a basically useless heap of garbage Prince 2 is.

            Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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              #26
              Originally posted by Peter Loew View Post
              It's really very easy, you massage or exaggerate the past couple of roles on your CV to reflect more of a technical PM stance, and then apply for PM roles with the frame of mind that you are, in fact, an experienced project manager.

              P
              Yeah, my plan was to exagerate a little bit... but only after I get a firm understanding of some concepts. So, I'm going to wait until I get my PRINCE2 certification before I start applying (which should be in mid April).

              Thanks for that though.

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                #27
                Just so that you know...

                Make sure you don't 'exaggerate' any Prince2 qualifications as there is a register kept for all those that have passed both at Foundation and Practitioner level.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Xil3 View Post
                  Yeah, my plan was to exagerate a little bit... but only after I get a firm understanding of some concepts. So, I'm going to wait until I get my PRINCE2 certification before I start applying (which should be in mid April).

                  Thanks for that though.
                  Exaggerate a little bit = lie about length/breadth of experience. Take a role that you can't do. Devalue further the general client perception of contract PMs (and your EB) and lower your rate to take the gig from someone who can actually do the job?

                  I once knocked up a macro in Excel, does that mean I can be an Oracle team leader?

                  Thanks for that
                  Last edited by 51st State; 1 April 2008, 11:13.
                  If she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood. And therefore a witch!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by 51st State View Post
                    Exaggerate a little bit = lie about length/breadth of experience. Take a role that you can't do. Devalue further the general client perception of contract PMs (and your EB) and lower your rate to take the gig from someone who can actually do the job?

                    I once knocked up a macro in Excel, does that mean I can be an Oracel team leader?

                    Thanks for that
                    Obviously, you have to be confident you can do the role. It would be silly to exaggerate about something you have no idea about.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 51st State View Post
                      Exaggerate a little bit = lie about length/breadth of experience. Take a role that you can't do. Devalue further the general client perception of contract PMs (and your EB) and lower your rate to take the gig from someone who can actually do the job?

                      I once knocked up a macro in Excel, does that mean I can be an Oracle team leader?

                      Thanks for that
                      I don't apply for positions that I can't do...

                      As always, you're the first to post a negative and judgemental comment. Next time please read the whole ******* thread before sharing your thoughts...

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