ISEB Practitioner...Tips....???

[Darren_Test]

Guys,

While in bench I thought its good idea to try ISEB Practitioner (testing)exam.

Any one here tried ISEB Practitioner successfully recently..??
How easy to pass this with out going through crash course (pass%..??)..??

Any tips/feedback highly appreciated...

Thanks..

[malvolio]

Which one - ITIL, PM, Governance, Gateway review...?

[DiscoStu]

Which one - ITIL, PM, Governance, Gateway review...?

I think it's ISEB Test Practitioner he means.

IIRC it's a 2 week course and rather expensive...

[Darren_Test]

Which one - ITIL, PM, Governance, Gateway review...?

Yes...ISEB Practitioner (testing)....

[Cheshire Cat]

I wouldn't bother. I've got the Foundation and the Practitioner certs, and to be honest most people don't know the difference. Do the foundation (3 day course with multiple-guess exam) if you've not already, as it's much cheaper and will achieve the same result.

[Darren_Test]

I wouldn't bother. I've got the Foundation and the Practitioner certs, and to be honest most people don't know the difference. Do the foundation (3 day course with multiple-guess exam) if you've not already, as it's much cheaper and will achieve the same result.

Thanks...I do have ISEB Foundation as well as PRINCE2. I thought Testing Practitioner will be a boost for test management roles...haven't seen this as mandatory though...But I thought some times this could boost my profile a bit, especially when agencies are getting sacks of qualified CVs ....!!!

[gadgetman]

As a Test Manager I take both of them with a pinch of salt.

I used to think they were worth something but I interviewed many TA candidates with the Foundation course who were obviously clueless.

I recently worked on a gig with a "specialist" (permie) testing team all of whom achieved the Foundation via company sponsored courses. None of them had never done any testing in real life! so of course they were constantly asking my advice on how to do things on a real project.

To me, experience and a strong performance at interview are way more important.

However it never fails to amaze me how many gigs advertise Foundation or even Practitioner as a requirement.

I wouldn't bother. I've got the Foundation and the Practitioner certs, and to be honest most people don't know the difference. Do the foundation (3 day course with multiple-guess exam) if you've not already, as it's much cheaper and will achieve the same result.

[malvolio]

Yes...ISEB Practitioner....

No, which one? There are various disciplines.

I can't comment on testing but under the old ITIL the Practitioner was seen as a cash cow for the examiners, since there is the Manager's certificate above it and why be qualified in one tenth of the whole thing. Under the new flavour you have to acquire a couple of Practitioners before you can sit the Managers...

[Clippy]

No, which one? There are various disciplines.

I can't comment on testing but under the old ITIL the Practitioner was seen as a cash cow for the examiners, since there is the Manager's certificate above it and why be qualified in one tenth of the whole thing. Under the new flavour you have to acquire a couple of Practitioners before you can sit the Managers...

Handy to know.

So under v2, would you say Practitioner certs are not worth getting?
Even for someone without the breadth or depth to take the Managers cert until a few years time?

[shelby68]

As a Test Manager I take both of them with a pinch of salt.

I used to think they were worth something but I interviewed many TA candidates with the Foundation course who were obviously clueless.

I recently worked on a gig with a "specialist" (permie) testing team all of whom achieved the Foundation via company sponsored courses. None of them had never done any testing in real life! so of course they were constantly asking my advice on how to do things on a real project.

To me, experience and a strong performance at interview are way more important.

However it never fails to amaze me how many gigs advertise Foundation or even Practitioner as a requirement.

Got to agree with that, the foundation ISEB just means you get selected in the pimps DB when they scan applicants for roles, experience will always win over paper qualifications.

I have recently worked with quite a few "qualified" permy Non-functional testers, they couldn't hold a candle to the unqualified but experienced contractors.