Interesting Meeting With Client

[buffdaddy]

Found out the following facts

- they want me to go permie (current contract expires at the end of the year)
- If I do not want to go permie, they are still willing to keep me for the entire 2008 year.
- They pay the agency 18% of my day rate (seems normal?)
- Want me to do some exams at their expense


Quite happy with the meeting i might add.

[Torran]

Found out the following facts

- they want me to go permie (current contract expires at the end of the year)
- If I do not want to go permie, they are still willing to keep me for the entire 2008 year.
- They pay the agency 18% of my day rate (seems normal?)
- Want me to do some exams at their expense


Quite happy with the meeting i might add.

yes but did they ask you to sign anything in blood and use words like"soul" and "devil"?

If not, well done

[fzbucks]

Found out the following facts

- they want me to go permie (current contract expires at the end of the year)
- If I do not want to go permie, they are still willing to keep me for the entire 2008 year.
- They pay the agency 18% of my day rate (seems normal?)
- Want me to do some exams at their expense


Quite happy with the meeting i might add.

All you need now is a rate increase and 5 days working from home a wek and you'll have the ideal contract

[ChimpMaster]

You're working at an IB aren't you?

[buffdaddy]

nope....not at an IB

consultancy

[TheFaQQer]

What permie rate are they considering? Might be worth taking it for a year, at the least!

[buffdaddy]

the permie rate (50k) is far far lower than what they pay me as a contractor. So i basically said no to their permie offer (nicely) and said I'd be happy to contract for them once the current one has expired,

[TheFaQQer]

the permie rate (50k) is far far lower than what they pay me as a contractor. So i basically said no to their permie offer (nicely) and said I'd be happy to contract for them once the current one has expired,

Smart move.

If they'd offering far more, would you have taken it, though?

[buffdaddy]

erm

good question. For a normal client probably not. But these guys are a consultancy..so the work is like a contractor anyways...even if u are a permie..the whole politics etc doesn't come into it..

but it would have had to be similar to what i earn as contractor

[SandyDown]

the permie rate (50k) is far far lower than what they pay me as a contractor. So i basically said no to their permie offer (nicely) and said I'd be happy to contract for them once the current one has expired,

they were really happy with you and offered you 50K

what would they have offered you if they thought you were crap??

consultancy work:
1- work for client 9-6pm

2- 6-8 pm attend useless consultancy meetings to discuss business and progress how are we gona make more money from the client etc

3- 9-10pm or weekends (your choice), complete your personal development plan, project appraisals (and there are a few of those in a consultancy) complete 360's, give formal and informal feedback on colleagues, participate in your sector progress i.e. as they call it go the extra mile and prove you are worthy to be part of the sector by organising events, project reviews, volunteer for bids and mentoring / training others, do recruitment
write business case each year to get promotion of 3-5 K increase (max)

4- training ?? used to go through hoops and had to write business case to justify any training I wanted to do, most were turned down... the ones that were approved (free training) got cancelled in the last minute cuz the sector want to meet their quarter target out of your utilisation

5- Utilisation targets - don't get me started... to achieve the target it means you can't get sick, or take all of your holiday you need to chargeable all the time (that's why you need to fit in all the above tasks in your own time)and when you don't achieve your target, guess what - no bonus or very little bonus (talking about £500-£3000 per year max average £1000 per year)

6- Travel all over the place, cheapest form of travel else you need to write a business case why you used anything but cattle class or cheapest bus, never see your family ..


hmmmmm who wouldn't do all this for 50K, you must be mad!!