Originally posted by WindyAnna
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Multiple agencies with the same job.
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Agreed it is dealwithable (not a real word) but still hassle, and I would do what you do for a great candidate but where there is nothing to mark them out above the rest I prefer to remain free of the hassle of the arguments, e-mails, legal letters etc.
On particular agency - who are currently trying to represent me (ha!) - once tried to sue my employer (was a permie at the time), specifically mentioning me, for taking on a contractor from a rival agency when they had sent a CV through - they weren't on the PSL and we only recruited PSL, they had taken the candidate's name off the CV and replaced it with a reference number so in theory I did not know who it was and anyway I knew the contractor personally and also knew that he had no idea that the agency had presented his CV to us! I can do without this sort of cr*p. Took weeks of all our time to deal with even though they withdrew the case. Hence my reticence.
I also don't even look at CVs from agencies that I haven't engaged for the role. Recently did some recruitment for permanent staff and sent the requirement out to 3 agencies, got CVs from 14 agencies!!! This is another reason why I send my CV to more than one agency advertising same role - you have no idea which ones are actually engaged on it. I even rang one of the ones advertising our job and pretended to be a candidate, they told me that they were the preferred supplier and had been working for my client for 7 years on this technology - absolute rubbish, for a start we have only just started working with this particular german ERP system.
The comment about lazy agents is valid - I regularly see CVs from people I know and when I call them they don't even know they have been presented - anyone who presents without the candidate knowing is immediately off my list.
Sorry long post of drivel, got the posting equivalent of wobblegob this morning, will shut up now.
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I don't know why agents bother with the legal bit - they never win, and they lose the client. One agency (who I'd name but I've forgotten!) started legal proceedings against my client over a similar issue (though more ambiguous). A huge company. I advised the agent that they'd be better off saying "Oh, OK; well, you understand I'm not that happy about losing this candidate, but, hey, how about giving us first shot next time a vacancy comes up". But no, he wanted blood.
I spent a fun hour with the client legal department. 10 mins discussing the case, 50 mins discussing the merits of contracting.
The agency eventually dropped the case. Not that they had one.
As an addendum, at another client a few years later, the same agency wanted to get onto our PSL. I told the agent "Tell your boss who you're talking to; I don't deal with agencies who sue their clients".
I guess I just enjoy fighting.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Doesn't say much for the 'work' the agents put in does it. How hard can jobserve be? If 3 have the same job I'd email all 3. Then the one which calls me back would be the one I dealt with. If the others put me forward without my say so, I'd want to know why the agent submitted my CV without first discussing the role/rate etc. If I have agreed to go forward with one agent, I'll tell the later agents that I have already been put forward for this role.Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.
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Originally posted by TonyEnglish View PostDoesn't say much for the 'work' the agents put in does it. How hard can jobserve be? If 3 have the same job I'd email all 3. Then the one which calls me back would be the one I dealt with. If the others put me forward without my say so, I'd want to know why the agent submitted my CV without first discussing the role/rate etc. If I have agreed to go forward with one agent, I'll tell the later agents that I have already been put forward for this role.
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An rather regressive agent did that to me - but after I'd had the interview. Told the client I'd withdrawn. He sold them instead a contractor who was asking for less, so he could increase his margin.
Again, the agency lost out when I was doing recruitment, cos they didn't get a look in. ( Same agent - he just seemed to have no long-term thought ).Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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