Hi -When negotiating a rate to work in the EU, is there a scaling factor that I should keep in mind to translate my UK pay rate? Not sure whether working abroad should have a premium added or not - excluding flights, accomodation, subsistence.
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As ever: figure out what you think you need to turn a healthy profit, check out what the market has to offer. If the numbers add up then take the job.Originally posted by dragsworthy
Doesnt matter where it is.
It might be worth taking a lower rate if you want to travel.I am not qualified to give the above advice!
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Thanks. I've been asked to quote an all-in rate for a job in Brussels .... rate + flights + accom + subsistence. A bit tricky as I don't want to over/under price myself. I'm going to have to press the agent for a ball-park figure and negotiate form there. What do yo think? Maybe I just go for what you say returns me a healthy profit.Comment
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How different are the rates between UK and EU?Comment
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Are they covering your expenses too? What do you do?Originally posted by dragsworthy
Brussels is not the cheapest place to be, but can be done on a budget.
I was on 500 Euro a day when last there, but see what the others are on (there are a few in Brussels) when they finally wake up.
Do not ask the agent for a ball park. Ask him what is on offer. Wince and tell him you were looking for a lot more than that, cant he do any better then hang up.I am not qualified to give the above advice!
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The agent will likely try to scam you anyway so ask for a higher rate...
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Yep don't ask the agent, just tell him. Likelihood is that he's not even sure himself. 500 Euros is about the norm I think, but that is not including flights, hotels, food etc. Calculate the average costs you'll be facing on a daily basis (incl. flights) and add that to 500 Euros. Of course you'll need to adjust for your skillset/demand.
Above all, make sure it's worth your while and that you're happy with what you get in your pocket.
I once quoted 1000 Euros to work in Holland. Never heard from him again.Comment
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I've pitched it at a high rate and we'll see what he comes back with. My view is that it's always easier to negotiate down from a high starting point rather than the other way round. I have to cover everything with the rate I quoted - no expenses paid etc.
Also, does anyone have a view on whether I should go for a Euro Umbrella service paying UK tax as it is just about under the 183 day rule. Then again, if I get an extension on the 6 months I'll be hammered twice for tax - If I understand the rules.Comment
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Originally posted by dragsworthy
Whats the 183 day rule? Newbie here pls enlighten!
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I am not qualified to explain this:Originally posted by aj1977Whats the 183 day rule? Newbie here pls enlighten!
If you are present in the host country for an agregate ** of 183 days then you become resident of that country for tax purposes.
It is further complicated in Belgium due to your UK Ltd and you may want to think long and hard about using it.
If you are the sole director of your company then Belgium regards your company as being resident wherever you are and that goes from day 1. You have to be able to show that "the seat of power" is outside Belgium to avoid this. If you have a business partner at home and can show that decisions about and the running of the comapny are done at home then you will be OK.
** Some countries calculate from start to finsih and include weekends when you were home, others just count the days you were actualy there.I am not qualified to give the above advice!
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