Originally posted by aj1977
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get a client who really, really needs you. work hard and deliver loads of quality upfront and then at renewal time demand ability to work from home on an acceptable schedule (like, monday and friday). -
careful with that "work from home" thing, I do it occasionally to look after the kids and I find myself still doing emails at 2100, besides with my disipline I get sod all done and then feel guilty about charging the client (can't believe I said that).
I left being an apps specialist around 8 years ago, last pure apps gig was last year and that was a fluke on a thing called OFA, and before that it was to get a visa to oz (2001) so there is not really a great market here for individual funkies , and if you know your way around the GL structure apps then you'll have no problems at all picking up the datawarehouse blurb it's all guff anyway, get some good industry specific knowledge (like banking/finance/insurance etc) and then marry that with the apps/tech stuff and you'll be fine, I've been a tech/BA now for the last 10 years and touchwood never been out for longer than a month or so..Comment
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Best way to get into Oracle apps?
How did you guys get into Oracle applications in the first place? Do you have any advice for a "standard" Oracle developer to make the leap?
Apologies, I know this is off topic but whilst there is a number of apps people gathered about I though I would ask!
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Getting into apps
Got a job with a consultancy then right place right time for the training course.Comment
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Get a permie job for a year or so, and then wing it from there. It's no different from being a bespoke developer, apart from there are more limitations about what you can and can't do. If you can find a good company putting in a wide range of modules, you should be able to market yourself as someone who knows about all sorts of areas of Apps.Originally posted by carpenteri
I used to be a bespoke developer, moved into Apps for the money - I find it a lot more boring than bespoke work, but the money makes up for it!Comment
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I tend to set the stall out early on - if I'm working away from home, I expect some kind of leeway from the client. If you set expectations that you want to be working from home one day a week right at the start, if you stay there for a few weeks 5 days, then scale back from there.Originally posted by DS23
I've done 5 days in 4 before, with the proviso that they could call me on a Friday in an emergency; I've also worked from home on a Friday a number of times - I tend to work a bit longer on Fridays at home than I would on site, but it's worth it.
Key is to make yourself indispensable while you are there, so they want to keep you.Comment
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Originally posted by carpenteri
What the Fagger and D7V said is correct, take a permie role with a client that has a substantial apps implementation (i.e more than just the basic drop) or take a contract role with a consultancy. All the apps stuff is a no brainer for a developer who knows his stuff, its the Business rules and issues that you need to get across, once you have that experience then it's money for old rope. All you need is a good 6-12 months lookie see at the apps side of it and you'll pick it up.
I am doing that just now (contract though) with a large SAP middleware/Oracle back end site, and to be honest, it's not significantly different from the Oracle apps stuff, just different names, processes etc, they all do the same thing.Comment
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Thanks all for the advice, it's much appreciated.Comment
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