Looking for UAT testers in Salisbury area

[meridian]

Get off your high horse, mate!

Your original post requested UAT testers without specifying an industry, product, or general rate that the client is looking for.

Why would any respectable contractor send you a cv that may be totally unsuited to the work and rate that you have on offer, if indeed there is any work on offer?

It simply sounds like a fishing expedition for some CVs, is all.

[brobi]

Get off your high horse, mate!

Your original post requested UAT testers without specifying an industry, product, or general rate that the client is looking for.

Why would any respectable contractor send you a cv that may be totally unsuited to the work and rate that you have on offer, if indeed there is any work on offer?

It simply sounds like a fishing expedition for some CVs, is all.

Ok. Insurance is the area rate is 300-400 per day any other questions?

[Cooperinliverp00l]

for somone running a service i don't think you are doing yourself or venture any justice in fighting back to comments made on this website. As one of your original posts stating everyone is entitled to an opinion and has the right to air that opinion.

it's not a professional picture you have painted of your company and for that reason i will not invest i'm out

[Ardesco]

You guys really are pains in the backside! And I thought it was just hearsay. You must be developers because they have issues with testing, apart from the odd unit test, full stop and don't understand users at all or their requirements.

Actually i'm a contract tester, and it may surprise you to find out that the above is generally how UAT happens in the field. 99% of UAT is nothing to do with testing, but managing the business users expectations of the new product and providing them with training. If the product is not fit for purpose by the time it gets into UAT it's usually too late to do anything about it anyway (Too much time and money has already been spent on it)

I don't care about finders fees because that is not what Complete Contractor is about. There are much higher quality issues that CC address that most contractors would not know they even needed. Let alone an agency actually helping you in any way shape or form.

Besides the Microsoft Gold partners that I have, who out source work to contractors, are onboard so who needs agencies anyway? Furhter more direct contracts are better anyway then the contractor makes the profit not the agency. I would love to see the large portion of contractors get direct contracts. Ok there are a few of you so keep your hair on but for the most of us that is not possible.

How does your company earn money then? If you don't get a finders fee and don't get a percentage of the money the contractor gets you can't have an income. Subscriptions may help, but it's not going to get your business off the ground because nobody is going to throw a couple of hundred quid at you (or whatever subscriptions are) when you have no track record.

As i said before, nice idea but I think you are setting yourself up for a fall.

[tim123]

On the first issue, an agency will come to us because we can supply them with a QUALITY contractor that will get the job, well at least 95% chance, before the others..

You are fooling nobody but yourself here.

There is absolutely no way that an agency will source candidates exclusively through you. None whatsoever.

tim

[brobi]

How does your company earn money then? If you don't get a finders fee and don't get a percentage of the money the contractor gets you can't have an income. Subscriptions may help, but it's not going to get your business off the ground because nobody is going to throw a couple of hundred quid at you (or whatever subscriptions are) when you have no track record.

As i said before, nice idea but I think you are setting yourself up for a fall.

Money is earnt purely through annual subscriptions. I believe that there is a growing need to supply quality people to agencies, as they have all said that the service Complete Contractor is supplying is easier to deal with than sifting through cvs. For the contractor to have a professional company that will help and advise them is also needed. Track record I have myself and other that I have helped gain contracts either direct with client or through agencies.

I have worked in IT in many roles over the years from support, development, project management and testing. So I do have an eye for a particular type of person the job may be looking for. I also have a very focused business presence that has laned me a number of successful roles without even the core skills apart from basic knowledge.

Apologies for the sounding off in earlier posts and yes you are right not very professional I do apologise. No excuses and I will not rise to it in the future.

Thanks for reading and your comments.

[Ardesco]

The main point that you are missing is this.

If I pay you £299 a year I expect my company resume (note it is not a CV) to be put forward for every job that I can do. If you have 30 contractors all capable of doing the same job and the agent only wants 2 people what happens to the other 28? They end up paying you £299 a year for nothing and will not renew. how are you going to explain to me that you did not put my resume forward despite the fact I have paid you a wedge of money to do so?

The idea could work well if you have a small number of experts on your books and a large amount of roles that demanded thier expertise, but in a large commercial sense it will never work. You will not be able to place everybody, the people not placed will shout loudly that the service is rubbish and not renew and your business will suffer accordingly.

Also you are basing it all around making it easy for the agent in one post, and cutting out the agency in another. What exactly are you trying to do?

Finally unless you screen resumes and decline membership request from people who are not experts in your field you are unlikely to get companies seriously interested in looking to you for contractors instead of an agency. They can get 100 poor fits from any agent for free, why get another 100 from you unless quality is guaranteed. Of course this brings back the problem of where are you going to get an income from? highly desireable contractors who are in demand are unlikely to pay you £299 a year when they are doing perfectly well already....

[Vito]

I have been asked by an agency to advertise non-jobs with a view to harvesting CV's.

I need experts in UHT, PCP, M&S, RBV, TGV, C&A, PNC.

Since I dont know the current rate for anything please indicate what this work might be worth.

Please include a list of your previous clients so I can hound them to eternity.

thanks in advance


PS I will pass your details on to whoever I like.

[brobi]

The main point that you are missing is this.

If I pay you £299 a year I expect my company resume (note it is not a CV) to be put forward for every job that I can do. If you have 30 contractors all capable of doing the same job and the agent only wants 2 people what happens to the other 28? They end up paying you £299 a year for nothing and will not renew. how are you going to explain to me that you did not put my resume forward despite the fact I have paid you a wedge of money to do so?

The idea could work well if you have a small number of experts on your books and a large amount of roles that demanded thier expertise, but in a large commercial sense it will never work. You will not be able to place everybody, the people not placed will shout loudly that the service is rubbish and not renew and your business will suffer accordingly.

Also you are basing it all around making it easy for the agent in one post, and cutting out the agency in another. What exactly are you trying to do?

Finally unless you screen resumes and decline membership request from people who are not experts in your field you are unlikely to get companies seriously interested in looking to you for contractors instead of an agency. They can get 100 poor fits from any agent for free, why get another 100 from you unless quality is guaranteed. Of course this brings back the problem of where are you going to get an income from? highly desireable contractors who are in demand are unlikely to pay you £299 a year when they are doing perfectly well already....

Putting some thought to this and will get back to you as there are some very good points here.

I suppose 1 point to make is that I do not preceive a problem to be with not finding enough work more the case as to quality contractors. There are other benefits that would help contractors and one of those being the tax issues. That alone is worth the tax deduction of the Complete Contractor service.

Also I make money from Sports Arbitrage trading so I don't need this to earn bucket loads of cash. I also contract, look at property investments, have a couple of other successful ventures that run on their own.

Besides the whole set up works for other professions why not this one? I mean there are thousands of actors out there so why dosen't it fall over with that profession? Really I am interested in your knowledge, experience and views...

[Ardesco]

Well then the pertinent question is how do you remove the chaff from the wheat whilst staying profitable?

I'm sure you have other incomes, but if this is not likely to become a profitable endeavour why are you bothering? (I know I probably sound cynical, but hey, i'm a contractor!! )

Finally just because it works in other industries doesn't mean it will work in this one. Are there lots of agencies in the acting profession that filter actors out and provide them work for free taking a percentage of the actors wage in return? I don't think so...