Originally posted by d000hg
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Overemployment / working two FT contracts at the same time?
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I have effectively done 2 near FT contracts before but that was a case of knackering myself in a "make hay while the sun shines" situation, and when 2 part-time (hourly rate freelance) roles basically expanded to full-time and I didn't want to drop one!
It wasn't great but lots of people work 80 hours a week and few of them get paid double for it so one shouldn't complain.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostBut even if I was, it's pretty obvious a client pays a reasonable amount for an expected output. You can build in some efficiency being really good yes but if the client is getting a certain output for half what they think they are paying then there is a problem. If any supplier comes on and has over quoted by 100% they'd be out the door in a shot. I am sure there is scope to spend 10, 20 or even 30% less when delivering an outcome but that can only be realised in a fixed price piece of work. If a client is paying a day rate they expect a day regardless of delivering an outcome. They will be expecting you to deliver that outcome quicker if you are that good, not half the work.
A true business would arbitrage their efficiency with deliverables - to me it's synonymous with negotiating fixed price work, if you're a good negotiator and manage to bag a 60K quote for 20K's worth of work, all the power to you, nothing "immoral" about it.
80% of the time, I've got 2+ gigs (billing 10 days per week). I deliver, I get renewed, and I'm Joe Average, I really struggle to understand how people struggle to get the work done within a normal working day, and I've worked in some God awful startup environments.Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
Weird how people claim to operate as true outside IR35 contractors and have opinions like this.
A true business would arbitrage their efficiency with deliverables - to me it's synonymous with negotiating fixed price work, if you're a good negotiator and manage to bag a 60K quote for 20K's worth of work, all the power to you, nothing "immoral" about it.
80% of the time, I've got 2+ gigs (billing 10 days per week). I deliver, I get renewed, and I'm Joe Average, I really struggle to understand how people struggle to get the work done within a normal working day, and I've worked in some God awful startup environments.
The sentiment you express is sensible for fixed price work. However it doesn't really work for a T&M contract. The expectation from the clients is that you work a full day for a full day's pay and that's the intent of the contract.Comment
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostDo you tell your clients you have multiple gigs running concurrently?
The sentiment you express is sensible for fixed price work. However it doesn't really work for a T&M contract. The expectation from the clients is that you work a full day for a full day's pay and that's the intent of the contract.
If we did a Venn diagram intersecting everyone's posting activities on the forum against their mythical 8 hours a day client expectation, what would we see, do you tell them you're posting here? Ironic the more outspoken anti-multigigging folk also have the highest post counts, that energy might be best served running a business and doubling your revenues.Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View PostDo you think that is a "gotcha"? It's just permietractor sentiment.
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
You're only saying that because you're "scared" or, rather, certain about how your clients would react. Hiding information from clients is not how proper businesses operate, it's how chancers operate and says nothing either way about being "in-business" or "not a permietractor", only that you are crap at business. I am totally transparent with my T&M clients that I am doing parallel work, if it comes up - since I charge by the hour for T&M work, the only scenario in which it comes up is non-availability for meetings. You cannot seriously do T&M work for multiple clients if you charge for a professional day - that is for unserious people. It's obviously a non-issue with FFP work.Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post
Scared yes I don't want to upset my slave owner. The rest of this post is basically exposing how happy you are with the power balance, i.e. having none, enjoying being incapacitated to make real business decisions, and scoffing at folk that do by calling them "chancers" or that they're "scared". Iced off with a no true Scotsman fallacy.
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostLike I said, you're unserious, a joke outfit, no different than a dodgy builder . I bet you've never actually done any B2B work in your life - you're a classic BoS permietractor with eyes bigger than your stomach.
The income from 7 years multi-gigging is no joke, anyone reading this who isn't a subservient SIMP, give it a try, it might just change your life.Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Posta subservient SIMPComment
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