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  • SussexSeagull
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    Originally posted by GitMaster69 View Post
    don't ever let clients test you. They engage you during the interview and it's their time to test you however they see fit. Giving you a take-home test is lazy on their part, they tend to reject 50 of them before they hire someone. In reality after 50 rejections they stop testing anyway so this is where you come in and fill the role.
    Don't fall for "it's not professional not to do test". It isn't professional to ask for them.

    Don't get me wrong I used to be very good at solving those puzzles BUT never got a job as an outcome of one because:
    A) Client didn't bother to look at the test
    B) Client overshoot asking for them and by the time I finished they hired someone
    C) Client rejected it giving false or bs reasons
    D) I didn't spend a WEEK doing the test and got rejected because "You didn't complete the task"
    E) I spent a WEEK doing 2h assignment and didn't get reply
    F) Test was filled with traps and ambiguities that I stopped doing it mid through
    G) Client had 50 other candidates and I just didn't win the 1:50 lottery
    H) I got the job but chose other offer

    it's always one of the above, never "you got the job buddy"

    The only exception I make is SOMETIMES when client pays AMAZING rate
    This. Only happened a couple of times but I have never got a contract following a test. Same with multiple interviews.

    Without fail the best contracts I have had have been on the back of quick chats.

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  • Dagger
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    My current client has a very hefty take home assignment. Thankfully I don't have to do them ?

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  • GitMaster69
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    don't ever let clients test you. They engage you during the interview and it's their time to test you however they see fit. Giving you a take-home test is lazy on their part, they tend to reject 50 of them before they hire someone. In reality after 50 rejections they stop testing anyway so this is where you come in and fill the role.
    Don't fall for "it's not professional not to do test". It isn't professional to ask for them.

    Don't get me wrong I used to be very good at solving those puzzles BUT never got a job as an outcome of one because:
    A) Client didn't bother to look at the test
    B) Client overshoot asking for them and by the time I finished they hired someone
    C) Client rejected it giving false or bs reasons
    D) I didn't spend a WEEK doing the test and got rejected because "You didn't complete the task"
    E) I spent a WEEK doing 2h assignment and didn't get reply
    F) Test was filled with traps and ambiguities that I stopped doing it mid through
    G) Client had 50 other candidates and I just didn't win the 1:50 lottery
    H) I got the job but chose other offer

    it's always one of the above, never "you got the job buddy"

    The only exception I make is SOMETIMES when client pays AMAZING rate
    Last edited by GitMaster69; 20 April 2022, 20:37.

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  • TheDude
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    Originally posted by eek View Post

    So you make the question as incorrectly answered and move on to the next one. Then at the end of the interview you mark them as a No and continue interviewing.

    You don't need a long winded test to find out if they understand React or whatever tech you need just a couple of questions that confirm they know enough.
    I don't think asking a contractor who is demanding a hefty day rate to demonstrate that they can produce working code in a reasonable timeframe is taking the piss.

    Most of the technical tests I have faced have been algorithmic and the time I spent in the past on Topcoder, USACO, Leetcode etc. really pays dividends here.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by TheDude View Post

    I have met many incapable developers who have been unable to adapt to new technologies and when challenged resort to bluster and war stories about their illustrious career.
    So you make the question as incorrectly answered and move on to the next one. Then at the end of the interview you mark them as a No and continue interviewing.

    You don't need a long winded test to find out if they understand React or whatever tech you need just a couple of questions that confirm they know enough.

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  • TheDude
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    Originally posted by Dark Black View Post

    This.

    A few minor techy questions on an interview is fine, but anything further requested and I also refuse. 15 years contracting experience (and the same again before as a perm) along with a number of repeat engagements with high profile clients on my CV should be enough.

    All the best contracts I've had tended to have a 20-30 min informal phone chat. The ones that have had any sort of in-depth techy interview tend to be from weaselly permies trying to prove how clever they are. Best avoided.
    I have met many incapable developers who have been unable to adapt to new technologies and when challenged resort to bluster and war stories about their illustrious career.

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  • rocktronAMP
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    Originally posted by hungry_hog View Post
    Very common for perm roles. Some of the FANG companies take the mickey with them.

    For contract should not be required. If they ask run away.
    What are they going for next? Eh. Let's bring back 1980's / 1990's pyschometric testing a.k.a IBM puzzles and whatnot. Sheez!

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  • hungry_hog
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    Very common for perm roles. Some of the FANG companies take the mickey with them.

    For contract should not be required. If they ask run away.

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  • Dark Black
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    Originally posted by ResistanceFighter View Post
    Every time i've entertained the idea i'm told "it should only take an hour" but the spec clearly looks like it will take daya.

    I just flat out refuse tests as soon as there is any mention of 1 being needed
    This.

    A few minor techy questions on an interview is fine, but anything further requested and I also refuse. 15 years contracting experience (and the same again before as a perm) along with a number of repeat engagements with high profile clients on my CV should be enough.

    All the best contracts I've had tended to have a 20-30 min informal phone chat. The ones that have had any sort of in-depth techy interview tend to be from weaselly permies trying to prove how clever they are. Best avoided.

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  • TheDude
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    Originally posted by ResistanceFighter View Post
    Every time i've entertained the idea i'm told "it should only take an hour" but the spec clearly looks like it will take daya.

    I just flat out refuse tests as soon as there is any mention of 1 being needed
    I refuse requests that take the piss but evading any sort of coding test is a bad look.

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