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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post

    now that is stupid to suggest that. At least NLUK had some valuable suggestions.

    I have been doing double/triple bubble for 2 years solid now. It's not for everyone. But £250k turnover builds a decent warchest. And seeing as I've been nowhere for 12 months it's worked out very well.
    And you've probably factored that in to your business model, the clients are onboard, you deliver products not services and so on. It can happen but is a rare beast.

    The raft of questions we have had in the last two months are just bum on seat day rate contractors being offered something and think because they are WFH they can pull the wool over their clients eyes, nothing more.

    We've had something like four of these in the last six weeks or so. That's more than in the whole time I remember which speaks volumes.

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  • ladymuck
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    Originally posted by JohnM View Post

    I would hazard a guess you aren't giving 100% and a full 7.5 hours per day to each client which I am sorry but is wrong
    It depends on the contract... I've done three roles concurrently:

    1. Using up leftover days on a PO to give ad hoc consultancy - I just totted up the hours worked until the days ran out
    2. Fixed price contract that had quarterly payments and a defined scope for each period. How many hours I worked was up to me
    3. Part-time role that only needed three days a week but, as long as key meetings were attended, when I did those three days was up to me. As best as possible, I fixed those three days to make life easier for the people I was working with, and help manage expectations with the other two clients.

    Your assumption is based on a traditional BoS contract, not proper B2B engagement

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  • Fraidycat
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    Originally posted by JohnM View Post

    I would hazard a guess you aren't giving 100% and a full 7.5 hours per day to each client which I am sorry but is wrong
    There are 168 hours in a week.

    Thats enough to service 3 full time clients and still have almost 8 hours a day left over.

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  • JohnM
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post

    now that is stupid to suggest that. At least NLUK had some valuable suggestions.

    I have been doing double/triple bubble for 2 years solid now. It's not for everyone. But £250k turnover builds a decent warchest. And seeing as I've been nowhere for 12 months it's worked out very well.
    I would hazard a guess you aren't giving 100% and a full 7.5 hours per day to each client which I am sorry but is wrong

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  • ladymuck
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post

    now that is stupid to suggest that. At least NLUK had some valuable suggestions.

    I have been doing double/triple bubble for 2 years solid now. It's not for everyone. But £250k turnover builds a decent warchest. And seeing as I've been nowhere for 12 months it's worked out very well.
    It works really well with sensible clients and well written contracts. It works less well with your average BoS gig.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by JohnM View Post

    This.....

    Stupid idea
    now that is stupid to suggest that. At least NLUK had some valuable suggestions.

    I have been doing double/triple bubble for 2 years solid now. It's not for everyone. But £250k turnover builds a decent warchest. And seeing as I've been nowhere for 12 months it's worked out very well.

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  • JohnM
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

    He's not subbing out. It's like all the other threads we've had on this. He's got a gig, he's been offered another one and because he's WFH and the client can't see what he is doing he thinks he can take another one and pull the wool over both clients eyes.

    He's gonna coast on both of them delivering less than he should/can in the hope he can double bill. Neither client will be told, neither will be happy about it but the sheer greed suddenly makes it look like a good idea to him.
    This.....

    Stupid idea

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
    If you're going to take two and then sub one out, then you need to be 100% sure that the client will allow you a full and unfettered right of substitution.

    If you're going to attempt to do two contracts at the same time (I once did three, all were part time), then you need to be very clear as to each client's expectations (both practically and contractually). If you're charging a day rate, then clients expect a full day's work for a full day's pay. Trying to double bubble will lead to all sorts of problems. Or, you end up doing 16 hour days and burning out.
    He's not subbing out. It's like all the other threads we've had on this. He's got a gig, he's been offered another one and because he's WFH and the client can't see what he is doing he thinks he can take another one and pull the wool over both clients eyes.

    He's gonna coast on both of them delivering less than he should/can in the hope he can double bill. Neither client will be told, neither will be happy about it but the sheer greed suddenly makes it look like a good idea to him.

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  • GitMaster69
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    Thanks everyone for feedback, I’ll look at it closely now

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  • ladymuck
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    If you're going to take two and then sub one out, then you need to be 100% sure that the client will allow you a full and unfettered right of substitution.

    If you're going to attempt to do two contracts at the same time (I once did three, all were part time), then you need to be very clear as to each client's expectations (both practically and contractually). If you're charging a day rate, then clients expect a full day's work for a full day's pay. Trying to double bubble will lead to all sorts of problems. Or, you end up doing 16 hour days and burning out.

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