Anybody else here been on the Lafosse IR35 call?

[MasterBait]

They are claiming their contract is outside of IR35 as they have determined so? I call BS as the end client needs to determine it.
PS wasn't on the call myself but heard this from another contractor at the same end client

[Lance]

They are claiming their contract is outside of IR35 as they have determined so? I call BS as the end client needs to determine it.
PS wasn't on the call myself but heard this from another contractor at the same end client

does it matter if that determination is in place come April?
It's still not your problem, and if the determination should have be made by the end client it'll take quite some while for that to become a thing.

[CheeseSlice]

Lafosse website suggests they haven't understood the reform at all

When does the new IR35 legislation for the private sector come into place?
From 6 April 2020, how the rules are applied will change.

If you are a worker and your client is in the public sector, it’s their responsibility to decide your employment status. You should be told of their decision.

If you are a worker and your client is in the private sector, it’s your intermediary’s responsibility to decide your own employment status for each contract. The private sector also includes third sector organisations, such as certain charities and community organisations.
All public sector authorities and medium and large-sized private sector clients will be responsible for deciding if the rules apply to their workers, and as such, if they are within the scope of IR35 or not.

If a worker provides services to a small client in the private sector, the worker’s intermediary will remain responsible for deciding the worker’s employment status and whether the rules and subsequent IR35 status apply.

[Lance]

Lafosse website suggests they haven't understood the reform at all

they certainly don't understand what the intermediary part of IR35 is.

[BlueSharp]

It looks like the barrow boys and girls are trying to muddy the waters to undercut the competition. Go with us Mr End client as we will make a favourable determination.

Will agencies doing this become the next loan charge scandal as the private sector is left on the hook for the payments?