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    #11
    Originally posted by simes View Post
    Might depend on what it is that is causing the stress...
    Did you not read the original post?

    If it is the debt, then should he be lucky enough to get into contracting, it would be the quickest route towards being stress free.
    Which he won't so pointless comment,
    And in terms of contracting being a business model because contracts have to be signed and one has to deal with agents, I am presuming one must do the same to land a permanent job...?
    Christ on a bike.
    For most of us, I would submit an accountant and some IPSE membership should cover most of the unknowns and once he's earned his way out of debt, everyone is smiling.
    Absolutely tosh, as usual.
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      #12
      Originally posted by tajch View Post
      Hi Guys,
      Q- What skill I should have which are in demand or can be learned quickly to get into contracting to get paid £200-£500 PD ?
      There are no skills that can be learned quickly that are worth £200 - £500PD.

      There are "hot" skills ( a latest framework, language, approach ) but they are almost always predicated on you having a whole bunch of other skills.

      So for example the in-demand skill might be something like Angular, which can be learned by a proficient developer in a short amount of time … but you would still need a whole heap of other skills to be able to be proficient in it.


      Q- How easy do you think it will be to get into contracting ?
      As NLadUK said, pretty close to zero, for an IT focused contract if you have very little experience in IT/Development/Infrastructure.

      The only way I would see in is if you could find a BA role for a company doing a T&T system. Then you would be able to leverage your 16 years experience in travel & tourism as a "business expert".

      I'd be looking hard for a permie job if I were you. As soon as you get some sort of income you'll be feeling a lot happier. Messing around trying to get contracts that you just aren't qualified for is going to be soul-destroying and wasting your time.

      Good luck though.

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        #13
        Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
        If you needed a plumber for a difficult job how likely are you to hire someone who has no experience as a plumber?
        That might largely depend upon whether the person with no plumbing experience has the "gift of the gab" and is a master at convincing me that he does have ample plumbing experience.

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          #14
          Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
          There are no skills that can be learned quickly that are worth £200 - £500PD.
          Are you sure about that?

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            #15
            OP, how easy do you think it would be for a Java Developer to suddenly switch tracks and become a successful travel consultant?
            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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              #16
              Java developer? OP may have some experience at brewing coffee though.

              Forget about anything too technical and look into analysis (Business Analyst as mentioned) or management skills to see if there is anything out there you think that may be doable, particularly if there's anything related to the travel industry. It will be easier to stay positive if you don't feel too out of your depth.

              Got any contacts you can use from all those years experience? Maybe old clients hiring or worth reaching out to for a chat to see if they have anything to offer. This is where maintaining good business relationships pays back as they're more likely to make time for you.

              If the debt is unbearable there is always unskilled work out there and ways of managing debt (look into citizens advice around this), just be prepared to accept work you wouldn't otherwise have considered.
              Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Contractor101101 View Post
                Are you a contractor? It doesn't really sound like you know what it's like to be responsible for running your own business.

                as for the stress: the OP would be lucky to earn around 300 a day if that, and contracts that don't require highly specialised skills often fall inside IR35 (Direction & Control). Which would mean earning power of roughly that of a permie.
                18 years and counting. But really, again for the most of us, we issue one invoice a month which generally does not need to be chased, and we do not have employees on our books which mean we do not have to earn a bottom line to meet running costs. There are businesses and there are businesses. That is all I am trying to say.

                Nope. £300/day equates to £72k pa and with better than permie style tax implications, the debt would be cleared far quicker.

                The chap, who seems not to have returned, said he was in management. If he finds himself in an environment with BA's, Solution Designers and Operations people to cover the technical requirements, his 'management' could be directed towards project management.

                As for where this thinking is coming from, I am 'business PM existing in a technical environment'. I have not technical skills, but there are management experiences.

                As for what is possible, my words are not founded on baseless whim. I have helped friends with CVs to move from one environment to PMO and PM environments, and in contracting. And once in, they haven't found it too difficult to work, earn or 'learn to run a business.'

                Anyway, horses for courses. Stories and advice. Can be taken or left.
                Last edited by simes; 3 October 2018, 13:06.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by simes View Post
                  18 years and counting. But really, again for the most of us, we issue one invoice a month which generally does not need to be chased, and we do not have employees on our books which mean we do not have to earn a bottom line to meet running costs. There are businesses and there are businesses. That is all I am trying to say.

                  Nope. £300/day equates to £72 pa and with better than permie style tax implications, the debt would be cleared far quicker.
                  I highly doubt that you are a contractor, no disrespect. Every contractor knows that up to £300 a day does not translate directly to # of working days in a year x max day rate. This is something extremely basic to understand.

                  Then on top of that understanding that inside IR35 means paying tax pretty much like a PAYE - which would mean with his experience as a Manager, his net earnings would be similar to an employee. Very simple concept to understand for a contractor.
                  Originally posted by simes View Post
                  The chap, who seems not to have returned, said he was in management. If he finds himself in an environment with BA's, Solution Designers and Operations people to cover the technical requirements, his 'management' could be directed towards project management.

                  As for where this thinking is coming from, I am 'business PM existing in a technical environment'. I have not technical skills, but there are management experiences.

                  As for what is possible, my words are not founded on baseless whim. I have helped friends with CVs to move from one environment to PMO and PM environments, and in contracting. And once in, they haven't found it too difficult to work, earn or 'learn to run a business.'

                  Anyway, horses for courses. Stories and advice. Can be taken or left.
                  You are definitely not a contractor and not a native English speaker.
                  Last edited by Contractor101101; 3 October 2018, 11:29. Reason: update content

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                    OP, how easy do you think it would be for a Java Developer to suddenly switch tracks and become a successful travel consultant?
                    it would entirely depend on social skills. Selling requires little brain and being an extrovert with patience.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Contractor101101 View Post
                      it would entirely depend on social skills. Selling requires little brain and being an extrovert with patience.
                      Difficult then.
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