Client offering Contractors Perm positions

[Sockpuppet]

Bum on Seat. Some one no different to an agency temp and treated like an employee. Told what to do, when and how to do it and given no independence of action.

Phew. I was thinking that it was Bag O' tulipe.

[DeadKenny]

p.s. is it worth contracting for £15 ph?

Not for me. Even at £20 ph I'd be only getting gross what I got permanent and then have to lose a load in tax and NI so would be taking quite a large pay cut effectively. I'd say to get take-home better than what I had permanent I'd need at least £30 ph, very bare minimum. As a contractor I expect to be doing better than permie salary.

Not sure why they'd offer permanent after a contract when I would have thought that often contracts would be cheaper to the client than the overall cost of a permie. Personally I wouldn't want to be turned back into a corporate lackey. I've got no desire to go back to all the politics and back stabbing.

[barely_pointless]

I went permie once from a contract, biggest mistake of my contracting career so far, Client basically lied about the job, once you are permie they have you by the short and curlies, it's then when the politics kick in.

Abuse of support rosters, pointless reviews of any little thing, no creativity, basically , lied to who my boss would be, given a position much lower (but not mentioned nor agreed), reporting to (get this) some f*** clown with 8 months experience in the toolset when I had 10 years.............what a joke.

I lasted 8 weeks as a permie and walked.......out to another contract, I sat in the HR office and said plainly that having been lied to I would rather not discuss anything other than the fact that I am leaving, they asked for an "exit" interview and I told them to shove it and figure out their own mistakes, I'm certainly not going permie again for a long long time.....

unless its a very senior role and the lucre's better than the contract rate.

[Sockpuppet]

Pretty much the same story here.

Went to a new place and they were a bunch o' c**ts. The role was demoted between me getting it and starting (well everyone else in the department was promoted) so effectivly a demotion.

The person who had it before me walked and she only lasted long as they were paying for her to go through college. It was the kind of job where all the tulip rolled down hill.

I decided to go and got this contract @ Tesco for over double my salary and was thinking of a good way to tell them that I was leaving.They had me as they could claim £6k off me as training - part of my contract. Anway just as I'm leaving for some lunch the boss comes in and tells me that I have been fired. I just started to laugh as it solved the £6k problem.

Just carried on walking to the car. They then tried to make out that they were being generous by paying me 2 weeks salary.

Personally I was ready to let it go until my ex manager made it personal. He to try to make sure I could never get another job. When Tesco asked for a reference instead of refusing to give one or just telling them the dates that I worked there he wrote a huge e-mail saying I was the worst thing since sliced bread.

Luckly for me my previous employer thought that the sun shined out my so the agent took me on with only one reference.

Annoyed me a bit as relationships with the agent have been frosty at best, I think they were trying to distance me from themselve incase I was a muppet.

However the client loves me and I *think* there is an offer of a direct contract coming up so I must be doing something right.

One of these days I may just e-mail him and remind him how much I am getting paid, which is more than him and that I'm a decade younger....hmm. Like I said I wouldnt, but he made it personal not me.



To put it into perspective. The new warehouse I have just designed is over 3 times the size of ALL the warehousing that they operate in the UK. Not that I am bitter or anything.

[Mordac]

Personally I was ready to let it go until my ex manager made it personal. He to try to make sure I could never get another job. When Tesco asked for a reference instead of refusing to give one or just telling them the dates that I worked there he wrote a huge e-mail saying I was the worst thing since sliced bread.

Remember, you can sue the bollocks off them for doing that. Please do so, and report back. Or threaten to do so, it amounts to a payout either way. Mines a large glass of champers, when the cheque arrives...

[expat]

Not sure why they'd offer permanent after a contract when I would have thought that often contracts would be cheaper to the client than the overall cost of a permie.

Some clients don't know that, and others don't care.

[expat]

I went permie once from a contract, biggest mistake of my contracting career so far, Client basically lied about the job, once you are permie they have you by the short and curlies, it's then when the politics kick in.

Man gets a special offer from the Devil - a chance to spend a day in Hell, to see what it's like. He goes there and it's not like he imagines at all, it's all relaxation, flowing champagne, and music. Everybody looks happy.

Devil says, See, it's not so bad, that God guy just has all the good advertising. So the man goes off and sins all his life. At the end, he is carted off to Hell.

There he has to sit on pierecing points and slave all day long in the Fires. He complains to the Devil: this isn't what it was like before. Hah, says the Devil, that was a short contract. You're a permie now!

[DaveB]

Phew. I was thinking that it was Bag O' tulipe.

In your case we'll make an exception

[Sockpuppet]

Remember, you can sue the bollocks off them for doing that. Please do so, and report back. Or threaten to do so, it amounts to a payout either way. Mines a large glass of champers, when the cheque arrives...

I was thinking about that. Are the agency required to give me the reference? I read something about it being confidential?

[makscorp]

My client looks to be interested in permanent roles, whereas i want to go direct. Cut out the pimp in the middle. By doing this the client will save £7-8 per hour, which will pay off the release fee in the long run. If i saty here for a minimum of 1 year, the client will get thier money's worth back from the agency in savings!