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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostI had the same last time I rented a property so looks like it's going to be pretty standard going forward. Made the process pretty slick but odd not getting a copy of something in your grubby mitt (or inbox)
With Harvey Nash , I did get the contract emailed to me after I electronically signed it.Comment
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Originally posted by openshac View PostI've just tried that but they said it was "impossible" to provide me with a copy. All they were prepared to do was copy and paste from the portal into a Word doc for me.Comment
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Originally posted by openshac View PostI've just tried that but they said it was "impossible" to provide me with a copy. All they were prepared to do was copy and paste from the portal into a Word doc for me.Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostI had the same last time I rented a property so looks like it's going to be pretty standard going forward. Made the process pretty slick but odd not getting a copy of something in your grubby mitt (or inbox)"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostProperty contracts are different from commercial e.g. B2B and consumer contracts. So what washes in the world of property doesn't tally with other forms of contract law.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by openshac View PostI've been asked to sign a contract and had a couple of questions regarding the terms. Am I being reasonable or should be aware of any red flags.
Portal Contract
The agency (Lorien) refuse to email me a contract. They said I have to view it (in separate sections) on their online portal. Signing it seems to be just a click of an Accept button.
Is it reasonable to expect a PDF contract so that I can get it reviewed?
What will my copy of the contract look like?
Portal Invoicing
The contract demands that I invoice through their portal. I typically send all my invoices at the end of the month using my own accountancy system.
Has anyone had any luck getting Lorian to accept monthly "contractor generated" invoices?
Fines/Non Payment for Late Invoices
They want me to agree to fines and non-payment if an invoice is late. Now I'm not planning on submitting late invoices but this seems completely unreasonable.
Does this seem equitable?
Apologies, I realise there are quite a few separate questions there!
And I'd want a paper trail as proof or else someone can say I just made it up. I wouldn't settle for copying and pasting the contract from a portal myself. I'd insist they do it and at least send it to me in an email
I also have every contract checked by a 3rd party before signing so I must have a copy to do that
I've had no issue with standing my ground in the past, even when it holds up the starting process, in order to get a contract checked and I've yet to see one that doesn't have some mistakes in it
Invoicing seems to be hit and miss for me lately. Some agencies want you to create your own invoice then bill them, others will create them for you
Self invoicing does simplify things a lot for some people but like yourself I have to create my own invoices regardless because of the accountancy system I use
It only takes a few more minutes of my time so what I do is create an invoice on the accountancy system but use the invoice number from the portal so there is a "paper" trail to follow
Then at month end I download their own version of the invoicing as additional proof
I haven't seen anything about fines in contracts so far, but I assume they're talking about being able to fine you if you don't create an invoice on time?
It seems a bit much but what's the alternative, no work?
If you don't file an invoice on time you can't get paid but neither can they. For big agencies with lots of people on their books I suppose that could have problems with their cash flow and projections but there may be something in the contract they have with the end client that requires them to pass any costs like this on to you
It wouldn't bother me as I'm very methodical but that's you're the one who has to accept or rejectComment
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Originally posted by AnotherJohnDoe View PostDigitally signing a contract is common these days but I'd insist on an actual copy for myself for future reference, not one that can only be accessed via a portal
Originally posted by AnotherJohnDoe View PostAnd I'd want a paper trail as proof or else someone can say I just made it up. I wouldn't settle for copying and pasting the contract from a portal myself. I'd insist they do it and at least send it to me in an email
Originally posted by AnotherJohnDoe View PostI also have every contract checked by a 3rd party before signing so I must have a copy to do that
I've had no issue with standing my ground in the past, even when it holds up the starting process, in order to get a contract checked and I've yet to see one that doesn't have some mistakes in it
Originally posted by AnotherJohnDoe View PostInvoicing seems to be hit and miss for me lately. Some agencies want you to create your own invoice then bill them, others will create them for you
Self invoicing does simplify things a lot for some people but like yourself I have to create my own invoices regardless because of the accountancy system I use
It only takes a few more minutes of my time so what I do is create an invoice on the accountancy system but use the invoice number from the portal so there is a "paper" trail to follow
Originally posted by AnotherJohnDoe View PostThen at month end I download their own version of the invoicing as additional proof
Originally posted by AnotherJohnDoe View PostI haven't seen anything about fines in contracts so far, but I assume they're talking about being able to fine you if you don't create an invoice on time?
Originally posted by AnotherJohnDoe View PostIt seems a bit much but what's the alternative, no work?
Originally posted by AnotherJohnDoe View PostIf you don't file an invoice on time you can't get paid but neither can they. For big agencies with lots of people on their books I suppose that could have problems with their cash flow and projections but there may be something in the contract they have with the end client that requires them to pass any costs like this on to you
It wouldn't bother me as I'm very methodical but that's you're the one who has to accept or rejectComment
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Originally posted by openshac View Post
Agree, but it's doubling the amount of time I spend on invoicing which I loathe at the best of times!
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