A classic permie to contractor question

[SueEllen]

Trickling information out wasn't my intention. I just didn't know what information was relevant until asked.

Really?

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On the IR35 issue it's a permanent job at an agency and then working at client sites with potential for multiple different clients or projects, or contract for that agency and specifically be placed into this project. I think that may put it outside IR35?

Until I mentioned get a job with a consultancy you called them an "agency".

[SeanT]

My mistake with the terminology. This is a consultancy.

Really? Sounds like a body shop to me.

[mcNinja]

Really?



Until I mentioned get a job with a consultancy you called them an "agency".

Yes, really. My first post says I'm new to this. Surely it's not far fetched that I don't know exactly all the information that might help with the advice people can give.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here really? I already mentioned I made a mistake with the terminology. If you're suggesting I changed what the company was simply because you mentioned it then that's pretty presumptuous and a little unfair.

I'm just seeking some advice from more experienced people than myself.

[mcNinja]

Really? Sounds like a body shop to me.

You could be right. I know some folk that work there and they rate it highly. That's all I've got to go on at the moment really.

[northernladuk]

You could be right. I know some folk that work there and they rate it highly. That's all I've got to go on at the moment really.

Well you've got a host of opinions here to go on but you don't seem to want to hear and continue to argue how good it is so fill your boots. Good luck.

[mcNinja]

Well you've got a host of opinions here to go on but you don't seem to want to hear and continue to argue how good it is so fill your boots. Good luck.

I am listening to the opinions and think there's been some good advice so far. I'm not arguing how good it is, only clarifying the role and company. How good or bad it is who knows!

The advice I was hoping for was on the Java contract market and the contract role vs permanent and I'd still hope for some opinions on that. Particularly the first part.

Thanks for the advice.

[northernladuk]

Have a look at Jobserve and do a search for java. See how many roles in your area or where you are willing to work. Make sure you match the spec exactly. Not the ones you think you might be able to do or could fit in to with a bit of time/learning. You have to have the exact skills and experience required. That should give you some idea.

[ruasonid]

Really? Sounds like a body shop to me.

Whichever it is there is something called a bench, which is when you are sitting idle (OK, training) and not being billed to a client. If you are benched and they can't place you within X weeks they are not likely to keep paying you.

[jmo21]

I hate these agency perm setups. Right rip off. They'll put you at the client, when your done youll have to go to their office to look for more work which you won't find and they'll make you redundant after a month. Really poor setups. Another reason to walk away from it all.

that's how some "real" consultancies work!

[tiggat]

£450 vs £60k pa is pretty much level pegging in terms of final take home so that's not a factor.

how?