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    #41
    Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
    However, I've just been asked to do extra work tonight for their deadline tomorrow and asked if my hours above and beyond would be paid. Told flat no.
    Def taking the piss

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      #42
      Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
      It's the normal office - however I've been remote working a while and if they ask me to come in one day I have no problem with that; i get up early and fly up the motorway and come home the same nice. But they're wanting me both Thursday and Friday. Checking the hotels it would seem the prices are bumped with Christmas being so close. I'm looking at a fair old chunk of a days rate to stop one night in a Premier Inn. More if I wanted to stay at the Holiday Inn.

      No doubt in my mind this is them being awkward for me saying No to working extra tonight.



      It's a lesson learned indeed. I've just spoken to the agent. He called me out the blue, i think because someone at the client co has expressed disdain at my unwillingness to work for free. I told him that tomorrow was very inconvenient given that I have an interview - (which I might, I'm waiting for a call back. They seem keen to start me first week Jan), he told me that the contract stipulates office working and they were kind enough to let me work remotely. I simply pointed out, with all due respect, that they finished me on their terms, that the client was happy to let me work remotely while it was reaping them free work and if we're going on what the contract says then it was meant to last until February.
      Well that changes things. To be fair I'm slightly on the client side here. I'm trying to have sympathy with you but you arnlent helping yourself. They finished you on terms that are in your contract that you could have used. Stop being such a snowflake. You said yourself you were lucky to get WFH so I don't see a problem going back in to the office to handover.

      You gave them the free work. Forget that. It's history, move on. You can't start blaming your client for letting you WFH

      Although this is a really piss take overall I don't think a bit of man up would go amiss as well.
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        #43
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        Well that changes things. To be fair I'm slightly on the client side here. I'm trying to have sympathy with you but you arnlent helping yourself. They finished you on terms that are in your contract that you could have used. Stop being such a snowflake. You said yourself you were lucky to get WFH so I don't see a problem going back in to the office to handover.

        You gave them the free work. Forget that. It's history, move on. You can't start blaming your client for letting you WFH

        Although this is a really piss take overall I don't think a bit of man up would go amiss as well.
        Ordinarily, no. It wouldn't bother me. I've always been happy to go in when asked and given proper notice. But when I know that the request is being made out of pure spite just because I won't work for free after being canned, it's bothersome. It's no coincidence that I get asked to work extra hours, tell them no and then this happens? To be honest, I don't even know what they want me to do in the office. I've literally finished everything assigned to me. Hand off to client is tomorrow. Friday is a dead day. They're just being dicks.

        And when the agent says, you want them to sign your timesheet don't you? That's bang out of order as well. Like I haven't worked all week?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
          And when the agent says, you want them to sign your timesheet don't you? That's bang out of order as well. Like I haven't worked all week?
          Your timesheet says more than "he worked" - it says "he worked and we are satisfied with the work". I wouldn't want to give them an excuse not to sign it if I wasn't willing to risk losing out on that last week. Probably comes down to how much you need the money

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            #45
            Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
            Ordinarily, no. It wouldn't bother me. I've always been happy to go in when asked and given proper notice. But when I know that the request is being made out of pure spite just because I won't work for free after being canned, it's bothersome. It's no coincidence that I get asked to work extra hours, tell them no and then this happens? To be honest, I don't even know what they want me to do in the office. I've literally finished everything assigned to me. Hand off to client is tomorrow. Friday is a dead day. They're just being dicks.

            And when the agent says, you want them to sign your timesheet don't you? That's bang out of order as well. Like I haven't worked all week?
            Its two days though. Whats the big deal.
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              #46
              Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
              Ordinarily, no. It wouldn't bother me. I've always been happy to go in when asked and given proper notice. But when I know that the request is being made out of pure spite just because I won't work for free after being canned, it's bothersome. It's no coincidence that I get asked to work extra hours, tell them no and then this happens? To be honest, I don't even know what they want me to do in the office. I've literally finished everything assigned to me. Hand off to client is tomorrow. Friday is a dead day. They're just being dicks.

              And when the agent says, you want them to sign your timesheet don't you? That's bang out of order as well. Like I haven't worked all week?
              You set the expectation of working the hours. If it is spite then I'm afraid you've set yourself up for it.

              You got the flexibility to work from home but its just flexibility. I don't see anything wrong with going in to the office as contracted however near the end of your contract. You've had it good and you've got used to it so kind of on you.

              It's only 2 days. Be professional, suck it up, get the time sheet signed and move on. It's just not worth all this moaning in the long run.
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                #47
                Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
                It's the normal office - however I've been remote working a while and if they ask me to come in one day I have no problem with that; i get up early and fly up the motorway and come home the same nice. But they're wanting me both Thursday and Friday. Checking the hotels it would seem the prices are bumped with Christmas being so close. I'm looking at a fair old chunk of a days rate to stop one night in a Premier Inn. More if I wanted to stay at the Holiday Inn.
                Maybe there's some kind of northern lad(y) who will rent you a room for the night...
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
                  Ordinarily, no. It wouldn't bother me. I've always been happy to go in when asked and given proper notice. But when I know that the request is being made out of pure spite just because I won't work for free after being canned, it's bothersome. It's no coincidence that I get asked to work extra hours, tell them no and then this happens? To be honest, I don't even know what they want me to do in the office. I've literally finished everything assigned to me. Hand off to client is tomorrow. Friday is a dead day. They're just being dicks.

                  And when the agent says, you want them to sign your timesheet don't you? That's bang out of order as well. Like I haven't worked all week?
                  I think its unfair for them to ask you to work away your last 2 days but if you have been billing them for your hotel expenses +vat then i think its fine to go even if there's no actual work to do in the other offices....However, if the cost is going to be from your day rate and is not chargeable back to the client i would probably suggest alternative ways to deliver the work. It will all depend of the kind of supplier client relationship you started off with and my guess is this is going to be a difficult one.
                  The best thing here is to go where you're needed i guess as you would have done if the contract was to continue ie if you would have paid out of your pocket or otherwise.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by TNA57 View Post
                    I think its unfair for them to ask you to work away your last 2 days but if you have been billing them for your hotel expenses +vat then i think its fine to go even if there's no actual work to do in the other offices....However, if the cost is going to be from your day rate and is not chargeable back to the client i would probably suggest alternative ways to deliver the work. It will all depend of the kind of supplier client relationship you started off with and my guess is this is going to be a difficult one.
                    The best thing here is to go where you're needed i guess as you would have done if the contract was to continue ie if you would have paid out of your pocket or otherwise.
                    He clarified earlier he isn't working away. He's been asked in to the office he's contracted to be at. He's just got used to WFH which they kindly allowed him to do.
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
                      It's the normal office - however I've been remote working a while and if they ask me to come in one day I have no problem with that; i get up early and fly up the motorway and come home the same nice. But they're wanting me both Thursday and Friday. Checking the hotels it would seem the prices are bumped with Christmas being so close. I'm looking at a fair old chunk of a days rate to stop one night in a Premier Inn. More if I wanted to stay at the Holiday Inn.
                      Premier Inn, Manchester Airport, £55. Following week £50. Or you could find a B&B. Further out, the cheaper they'll be.

                      Think of all the money you've saved by wfh. I'm sure it's far more than a £55 this one trip will cost you.
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