rate expectations

[LondonManc]

I receive job descriptions or job details from the agencies, in fact, role description or job description means the same thing.

Is this important for the thread or for your ego?

He's trying to make you a better person

[northernladuk]

Could you please tell us why?

My guess is this.

http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...ml#post2325108

[SueEllen]

Could you please tell us why?

Someone kindly answered your question for me.

[SueEllen]

If the agent doesn't send the job description then it's a fake role (or they think you're not worth wasting the time on). However it does mean you have to have the conversation.

So it might not be the best approach but it is a valid approach.

Not necessarily.

Over the years I've had contracts which have started from:
1. Agents who will send a full detailed role descriptions with the client's name.
2. Agents who will sent a list of seemingly random words which are skills and technologies with the client's name.
3. Agents who will sent a link to client's website and not much else.
4. Agents who phone up for a talk then don't bother to send out an email but suddenly spring an interview on you within an hour or a day.

The thing fishing agents have in common is that they are preoccupied with your previous clients and the names of "managers" who can give you a reference. Agents with roles will not waste time demanding references there and then.

[Bee]

Not necessarily.

Over the years I've had contracts which have started from:
1. Agents who will send a full detailed role descriptions with the client's name.
2. Agents who will sent a list of seemingly random words which are skills and technologies with the client's name.
3. Agents who will sent a link to client's website and not much else.
4. Agents who phone up for a talk then don't bother to send out an email but suddenly spring an interview on you within an hour or a day.

The thing fishing agents have in common is that they are preoccupied with your previous clients and the names of "managers" who can give you a reference. Agents with roles will not waste time demanding references there and then.

Rate expectations:

The problem is: The OP is receiving what he needs (location, length of the gig, rate, etc...) In 1 of 10 approaches. He realize that probably they are fishing. He is asking what we use to do.

What would you do?

[SueEllen]

Rate expectations:

The problem is: The OP is receiving what he needs (location, length of the gig, rate, etc...) In 1 of 10 approaches. He realize that probably they are fishing. He is asking what we use to do.

What would you do?

Part of it is experience dealing with different agents as you learn over the years how to ask the right questions to get the agent to reveal all and notice the tactics that fishing agents tend to use, that way you can end the fishing calls as quickly as possible. In fact some agents are so shocked by how quickly I cut them off and say bye when they are fishing, they ring back leaving a voice message saying they must have been accidentally cut off.

I could put more information on here but it would mean the agents who are fishing could find this thread using Google and alter their tactics.