Eastern European consultants not good enough for the UK

[GB9]

Apparently, the alleged reason is in the post #5.

One of the clients I have worked for employed an Indian IT outsourcing company for a lot of platform / integration work and some analysis and dev work.

In general their English was very good, certainly for IT infrastructure work. However, the Finance side of the business hated working with them as their written English wasn't great. It was understandable but had numerous grammatical and spelling errors e.g. they rarely used the word 'the' before nouns.

It could well be that this company has had a similar experience and doesn't want to go through it again.

Or they could just be xenophobic. Who knows.....

[LondonManc]

It is about the interface with the client nothing to do with market sector, location or travel.

The client is making a sweeping claim that unless they have worked in the Uk with UK clients they would not be suitable no matter what module of ERP.

It could well be based on their previous experience. I've worked with many EU nationals, Polish in particular. Nice people but their levels of written English vary considerably. I certainly don't want to have to be re-reading every other paragraph before I present it to management. While there are plenty of natives that struggle with English, they tend to be the ones that aren't in the employed category.

[Bee]

One of the clients I have worked for employed an Indian IT outsourcing company for a lot of platform / integration work and some analysis and dev work.

In general their English was very good, certainly for IT infrastructure work. However, the Finance side of the business hated working with them as their written English wasn't great. It was understandable but had numerous grammatical and spelling errors e.g. they rarely used the word 'the' before nouns.

It could well be that this company has had a similar experience and doesn't want to go through it again.

Or they could just be xenophobic. Who knows.....

In that case I don't think it's xenophobia, that's why I wrote that all the foreigners must have at least professional proficiency in English, otherwise will be annoying for the locals.

[LondonManc]

In that case I don't think it's xenophobia, that's why I wrote that all the foreigners must have at least professional proficiency in English, otherwise will be annoying for the locals.

Correct. It's simply a case of someone being up to the job. No point paying less if the quality level that you're expecting isn't available at that price point.

[Bee]

Correct. It's simply a case of someone being up to the job. No point paying less if the quality level that you're expecting isn't available at that price point.

It depends what you consider quality, if it's documents yes I agree with you, but what is important is to deliver the project on time with in the budget, the rest is bulltulip (unfortunately).

What It’s wrong and annoying is when there are locals available and the agents insist in put foreigners with a lower rate.

[LondonManc]

It depends what you consider quality, if it's documents yes I agree with you, but what is important is to deliver the project on time with in the budget, the rest is bulltulip (unfortunately).

What It’s wrong and annoying is when there are locals available and the agents insist in put foreigners with a lower rate.

If documentation is part of the deliverables, then it matters.

Basic grammatical mistakes on a website are off-putting. From research that we carried out in the 90s, we found that the confidence of the rest of the website dropped if basic grammatical and spelling errors were found within the text of the website. That was before the days of off-shoring as well.

[GB9]

It depends what you consider quality, if it's documents yes I agree with you, but what is important is to deliver the project on time with in the budget, the rest is bulltulip (unfortunately).

What It’s wrong and annoying is when there are locals available and the agents insist in put foreigners with a lower rate.

This was the irony with the previous client. They wanted cheap on shored resource but also perfect documentation.

As an example of what was happening, instead of 'when the customer receives the statement', they would get 'when customer receives statement'. Although it was understandable, it wasn't great to read.

[LondonManc]

This was the irony with the previous client. They wanted cheap on shored resource but also perfect documentation.

As an example of what was happening, instead of 'when the customer receives the statement', they would get 'when customer receives statement'. Although it was understandable, it wasn't great to read.

They probably had a Yorkshireman teach them English.

[SueEllen]

They probably had a Yorkshireman teach them English.

How rude!

Unlike teenagers adults learn you don't write exactly how you speak unless you are writing a novel or a poem.

Oh and I had a Polish builder whose level of written English was better than a Polish colleague I working with at the time.

[LondonManc]

How rude!

Unlike teenagers adults learn you don't write exactly how you speak unless you are writing a novel or a poem.

Oh and I had a Polish builder whose level of written English was better than a Polish colleague I working with at the time.

Read "When customer receives statement" in your broadest Yaaarksheer accent and try and tell me I'm wrong