State of the Market

[SchumiStars]

State of market. 50k SC .net developer. And, yes, I did apply

[TheDude]

I am still being bombarded by Indian agencies looking for Scala and Spark developers for a banking client.

The only thing that has changed is the rate has dropped from £400 pd inside IR35 to £300 pd.

[TheDude]

Terrible numbers indeed and it's quite a selfish thing to say but hey, we are contractors. It only matters if you're on the bench!

It matters to everyone. Amazon are an employer of choice and their staff are well regarded. You may be in a contract but there will be another 30k piranhas in the tank when you are looking for another.

[TheDude]

Last place I used scrum the retrospectives were schedule for 2.5 hours with people bringing in coloured crayons and boards, cut out symbols, sweets and cakes. What a tulip show.

In fact this is opening some old wounds for me. In the team close to the one I was helping, the scrum master had a rubber horn, no joke. If somebody was late for the standup he'd sound the horn when they arrived! Not only that but he took great delight in throwing a ball at the assembled circle of participants in a random fashion, to signal their turn. WTF?! Next up the kanban board, or should I say 'information radiator'.

Think I may need some counselling to get over all this!!

If a scrum master threw a ball at me they would be using that rubber horn to summon the nurse to change their bedpan.

[TheDude]

Some strange names of agencies coming through

Trust in Soda ??

I applied to a couple of roles a few years ago and not a sniff. Not even an acknowledgement that I had applied.

[avonleigh]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/talha...VCP6uRu6WbBbXE

Shift work for developers?
Sounds like they have won a major contract that they are doing on the cheap. Also sounds like they are killing staff!

Indian consultancy, happens all the time. Usually cos the client is based in UK, Europe etc so they work shifts to make sure they have cover during business hours. They also are forced to work stupid hours. Not right of course but it's nothing new.

[SchumiStars]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/talha...VCP6uRu6WbBbXE

Shift work for developers?
Sounds like they have won a major contract that they are doing on the cheap. Also sounds like they are killing staff!

[oliverson]

Amazon laying off 30,000 corporate jobs. Not known yet how many of those will be in the UK.

There won't be a return to normal in IT jobs market until all these layoffs stop.

Why these companies carry so much fat around in the first place, some commentators are saying these firms did a lot DEI hiring and are now using AI as excuse to get rid.

Terrible numbers indeed and it's quite a selfish thing to say but hey, we are contractors. It only matters if you're on the bench!

I've come to the conclusion that traditional means of sourcing work, such as JobServe and the like, and even work posted on LinkedIn are in 2025, completely pointless. I've been at this for several months now, others for several years, and the response I get through those channels is virtually nothing. NOTHING. There's a realisation that previous clients and/or my LinkedIn network are the only chances of getting off the bench, and they're looking pretty long really. Indeed some of my contacts are in my exact same position!

The sense of urgency is gathering pace. There's no more than maybe 4-5 weeks now until the market (whatever is left of it), shuts up shop again for the Xmas/New Year. I'm not fancying my chances of landing something in that timeframe, so I could be staring at a year out of contract.

[WTFH]

Amazon laying off 30,000 corporate jobs. Not known yet how many of those will be in the UK.

There won't be a return to normal in IT jobs market until all these layoffs stop.

Why these companies carry so much fat around in the first place, some commentators are saying these firms did a lot DEI hiring and are now using AI as excuse to get rid.

Not sure what "commentators" you are listening to, but it's 14,000, not 30,000. But let's not quibble over numbers, and if the commentators say that it is because of gender, skin colour or disability, then that must be the reason.

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/com...orce-reduction

[anonymouse]

Just been submitted for a role and this was at the bottom of the JD, don't know how much it's true.



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