State of the Market

[TheDude]

My four month extension arrived and turned out to be a three week extension instead.

My boss spoke about wanting me to take the three month cool off period and re-engage when we discussed renewal. I would rather take three months off over summer/autumn than over Xmas so hopefully re-engagement is still on the cards.

[Snooky]

if you are a white male then then you will be discriminated against

Interesting claim, do you have any non-anecdotal evidence for this?

My experience differs - I'm a white, middle-aged male and, to my knowledge, have never been discriminated against, nor have I ever worked for a company where I saw such things happen. Perhaps there's positive discrimination in government roles, I wouldn't know as I've only ever worked in the private sector.

It's equally possible that a person's age, gender and racial background has absolutely nothing to do with their rejection, but that's a harder pill to swallow for the candidate.

[OzzieExpat]

Interesting claim, do you have any non-anecdotal evidence for this?

My experience differs - I'm a white, middle-aged male and, to my knowledge, have never been discriminated against, nor have I ever worked for a company where I saw such things happen. Perhaps there's positive discrimination in government roles, I wouldn't know as I've only ever worked in the private sector.

It's equally possible that a person's age, gender and racial background has absolutely nothing to do with their rejection, but that's a harder pill to swallow for the candidate.

It's everywhere
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...k-66060490.amp
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/b...s-b941600.html

I could find dozens that are published. The same ethos applies in a lot of companies as well.

[SussexSeagull]

It's everywhere
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...k-66060490.amp
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/b...s-b941600.html

I could find dozens that are published. The same ethos applies in a lot of companies as well.

I can only speak from my experience of being a 50 year old straight (although never having been quizzed on my sexuality that isn't really relevant) white guy who has never tried to be a fighter pilot or, to quote The Clash, make tea at the BBC and have largely been in the private sector.

If I have ever faced discrimination in my career it is through not having the right contacts and, recently, being too old. That isn't to say I haven't had fairly major cultural clashes with some of the Indian consultancies I have been forced to work with who exist to take what they can off you then replace them with one of their consultants but that was the same when I worked 'with' largely white Accenture 20 years ago.

Don't get me wrong, there was a period 10-15 years ago when too many work permits were issued to Indians on the grounds of skills shortages - which were actually skills shortages willing to work on the cheap - who now have the right to remain but I can't help think it is too easy to blame personal failings or lack of success on other people when in fact it is a market shift.

[WTFH]

It's everywhere...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/b...s-b941600.html

I could find dozens that are published. The same ethos applies in a lot of companies as well.

Funny how that headline has been debunked many times, but I doubt you got that far. A separate organisation, called "Creative Access" was one of the places advertising a role, not the BBC.
If you do a bit of research, you'll find that "Creative Access" are effectively a recruitment agency.

You're posting the sort of suff that we normally get from Fraidy, when he's not banned.

[SueEllen]

It's everywhere
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...k-66060490.amp
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/b...s-b941600.html

I could find dozens that are published. The same ethos applies in a lot of companies as well.

"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

[OzzieExpat]

Funny how that headline has been debunked many times, but I doubt you got that far. A separate organisation, called "Creative Access" was one of the places advertising a role, not the BBC.
If you do a bit of research, you'll find that "Creative Access" are effectively a recruitment agency.

You're posting the sort of suff that we normally get from Fraidy, when he's not banned.

You seem to have an agenda that doesn’t agree with this. You have also omitted the RAF article. It seems like you would like to close the argument by banning views you don't agree with.

[WTFH]

You seem to have an agenda that doesn’t agree with this. You have also omitted the RAF article. It seems like you would like to close the argument by banning views you don't agree with.

I omitted the RAF article, because I had information regarding the other one. If I had included the RAF article, you would have replied with "why did you include the RAF article".

As for banning, it wasn't for his views, but for the content of one of his posts in the professional section of the forum, as was clearly stated in the PM sent.

[SchumiStars]

Talked to a recruiter today about the state of the .market and he was equally perplexed of the given situation.

He came back with the fact that he was running out of excuses since last Oct.

1. Half term
2. Christmas
3. New year
4. New Financial year
5. Summer

....
All of these would end and the market would bounce back. However currently 12mths in and I have not seen any upswing at all.

[SussexSeagull]

Talked to a recruiter today about the state of the .market and he was equally perplexed of the given situation.

He came back with the fact that he was running out of excuses since last Oct.

1. Half term
2. Christmas
3. New year
4. New Financial year
5. Summer

....
All of these would end and the market would bounce back. However currently 12mths in and I have not seen any upswing at all.

Always was the case that the Summer school holidays and Christmas were quiet but you used to get a bounce in October, New Year and financial New Year. They don't seem to happen anymore.