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    #41
    OP

    Are you used to previously doing a 35 hour week?

    If so ask yourself can you consistently do a 9 hour day? for the duration of the contract.
    With lunch and your commute time added on, what does the day length add up to?

    Is 45 hours the norm for that client or are they pushing up the hours in a bid to shorten your deliverable lead time?
    If so are you really comfortable you can deliver in the expected time frame?

    I used to do very long hours including silly distances to client sites as a field engineer, it wasn't just the lack of 'me' time at the end of each day but the knock on effect meant weekends were often about recovery rather than doing stuff!
    Old age is getting the better of me now and I would pass on those sort of hours especially if it was my first contract.
    Don't jump in without thinking it through.
    So now I am worried, am I being deceived, just how much sugar is really in a spoon full!

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      #42
      I think the OP might miss the fact that contractors don't get paid lunches?

      So 9 hours means 8 working hours so 40 hours a week with 5 being lunch, unless they want 9 worked hours plus lunch (does it say how long the lunch break is?) however since OP stated 9 to 6 then I would say yes... that is a 40 hour contract + lunch.

      If I had a 37.5 hours contract I would take 30 minutes lunches since 8 hours a day x 5 is 40 minus the 2.5 lunch is 37.5. If I wanted longer lunches I would finish later.

      By all means negotiate with them and say, I will only take 30 min lunches can I do 9-5:30? or say you won't have any lunch and leave at 5?

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        #43
        Originally posted by Drei View Post
        By all means negotiate with them and say, I will only take 30 min lunches can I do 9-5:30? or say you won't have any lunch and leave at 5?
        A client should never agree to that for fear of breaching Working Time Directive. I know it's your call and that you're not an employee, but clients must not be seen to be forcing breach of WTD on anyone.

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          #44
          Originally posted by fidot View Post
          A client should never agree to that for fear of breaching Working Time Directive. I know it's your call and that you're not an employee, but clients must not be seen to be forcing breach of WTD on anyone.
          How can it be a breach if it doesn't apply?
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #45
            because clients (and HR departments within clients) are risk adverse

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              #46
              Originally posted by fidot View Post
              because clients (and HR departments within clients) are risk adverse
              In all the contracts I've worked I've never had a thing to do with HR. I'm engaged as a supplier through the project.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #47
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                How can it be a breach if it doesn't apply?
                Some clients make you "comply" with it on-site due to health and safety regulations.

                They only care about not getting sued.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #48
                  45 hour week you say ?

                  After careful consideration I am going to have to say no

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                    Some clients make you "comply" with it on-site due to health and safety regulations.

                    They only care about not getting sued.
                    So your basically acting like an employee, getting instructions like and employee and being treated like an employee....
                    Last edited by dx4100; 26 May 2016, 20:58.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by dx4100 View Post
                      So your basically acting like an employee, getting instructions like and employee and being treated like an employee....
                      Complying with the client's health and safety requirements is not acting like an employee.

                      The client is jointly responsible if you kill or injure someone, even if that's yourself, and there are sufficient health and safety laws to enforce that.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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