You can use our licence....

[northernladuk]

Indeed, but would it not fail IR35 compliance points... I.e. By using client's resources, machine or software, et al.?
This seems to be one of the standard point or question in IR35 checklist though that contributes to determine the working practices fail, etc.

Vas ist diz IR35 compliances of vhich you speak?

[LondonManc]

Indeed, but would it not fail IR35 compliance points... I.e. By using client's resources, machine or software, et al.?
This seems to be one of the standard point or question in IR35 checklist though that contributes to determine the working practices fail, etc.

I think that varies by industry. As a tradesman, I'd expect to use my own tools. In IT, it's very much down to the security policies of the client. I know I wouldn't want unvetted equipment on my network (oo-er!).

[jmo21]

Not really if everyone else is the same.

Most places I've worked simply won't let you bring a laptop on site.

Indeed, but would it not fail IR35 compliance points... I.e. By using client's resources, machine or software, et al.?

No.

If it is the same for everyone (contractors, permies, £2000/day management consultants) it won't be an issue.

There are lots of little things you should keep an eye on with regards to IR35, but I do not believe this is one of them.

[Danglekt]

Yes, but the "IR35" situation is a bunch of tests/checks, which all add up to a decision.

Surely mitigating as many is what keeps us out of harms way no?

All comes down to risk appetite. As do most business decisions.


most Risk averse - swallow £4k licence
Risk averse - run and get another gig


more risk appetite - use their kit

it's only one indicator

[diseasex]

Just download it from piratebay for the time being. Do the gig and uninstall?

[LondonManc]

Am on site at client offices, have been 7 weeks, and they have tests that use the MS fakes library stuff which ships with Visual Studio enterprise edition.

I, as working for my Ltd. Co, have MSDN professional. This means that I can't build and run the clients test projects, which they want.

They understand the situation and have offered to install the enterpsie edition on a dev machine of theirs and let me use that.

Wondering what you'd do, as i can see it i have choices of:

• Buy enterprise package at £4k +
• Use their dodgy, as already in use by their dev, this is not a "spare", licence
• Inform the client and agency that gonna have to let them down as don't have tools to execute the work.

Can you create a virtual machine on your laptop and then uninstall the dodgy as soon as you're done?

[WordIsBond]

Surely mitigating as many is what keeps us out of harms way no?

In general, I'd agree.

I don't think this is a case of mitigating a problem, though. It isn't a problem to use client equipment. It's neutral.

It's the difference between a negative, a positive, and a neutral.

It's a plus on your side if you pay for and use your own equipment, because employees don't generally do that. But non-employees frequently use engagers' equipment, especially if it is specialist equipment, or if there are security factors or license issues. So in this case you'd say, "Usually I use my own equipment, but there was a license issue on this contract so I couldn't."