Finding out the rate being charged?

[northernladuk]

Stop ignoring the question!

What's the question? How to squeeze the client?

Or the next one around 'How do I ask the agent for a rate rise? '

[LondonManc]

if you want to get childish about reading abilities, you said "So you have nothing on the table, at the present time, to back up this raise?
Good luck with that "

when in the OP I said " but when my next renewal comes up, I'd like to ask for a rate bump "

people in glass houses and all that.........

What's your reason for wanting a rate increase? Have you demonstrated increased worth to the client? Are the agency going to struggle to replace you? How long have you been with the client?

[WTFH]

if you want to get childish about reading abilities, you said "So you have nothing on the table, at the present time, to back up this raise?
Good luck with that "

when in the OP I said " but when my next renewal comes up, I'd like to ask for a rate bump "

people in glass houses and all that.........

So, you've been provided with the answer several times and rather than responding to those replies or thanking the people who gave of their valuable time to furnish them, you choose to ignore them and have an argument.


Good luck the next time you're looking for help. With your current attitude you're going to struggle to find it.

[Boo]

...plenty of examples of ... other offers that are coming my way...

It's this that will allow you to negotiate a rate rise, nothing else. As has been posted in this thread the only way you will get a rise is by threatening to walk, if you can't do that in the knowledge you have a certain alternative as a backstop then you will just lose face by trying for a rate rise.

Boo

[northernladuk]

It's this that will allow you to negotiate a rate rise, nothing else. As has been posted in this thread the only way you will get a rise is by threatening to walk, if you can't do that in the knowledge you have a certain alternative as a backstop then you will just lose face by trying for a rate rise.

Boo

Excellent point very well made. Remember agents do this forms living. They know who is serious and who is a Chancer.

[BolshieBastard]

Never heard so much crap in my life, 'how do I find out what Im costing the client?'

Seriously, who makes these sockies up?

Simple answer is you arent going to find out unless someone on client side or within the agency is prepared to tell you. And in my experience, that very rarely happens.

If you want a rate rise, ask for it. You dont have to 'prove' you're 'worth it' as some suggest either. Ive told agents 'I want an extra £xx per day or Im leaving' when Ive previously been with the client for more than 12 months (not that often since IR35 came in as Im risk averse to being part & parcel of the organisation.)

If I didnt get the rate I asked for or could agree on with the agent, I left. Simple as.

[MrMarkyMark]

Simple answer is you arent going to find out unless someone on client side or within the agency is prepared to tell you. And in my experience, that very rarely happens.

If you want a rate rise, ask for it. You dont have to 'prove' you're 'worth it' as some suggest either.

If I didnt get the rate I asked for or could agree on with the agent, I left. Simple as.

I have been told, by both agent and client plenty of times, so I guess, your and my experience differs.

Yes, you can use the sledgehammer approach of, just say give me £xxx or I will leave, that is your choice.
It can also be a valid to approach it in a different way and explain that a role has substantially changed, or is going to change.

Ive told agents 'I want an extra £xx per day or Im leaving' when Ive previously been with the client for more than 12 months (not that often since IR35 came in as Im risk averse to being part & parcel of the organisation.

So you are "risk adverse" to becoming part and parcel, but, will take more money to stay on longer. Makes me laugh when I have read all the BS you have gone about, regarding this part and parcel issue, before.

[Magpie252]

When renewal came up, they dropped the ball, and I did the leg work for them. I don't really feel they earned their 15% of that 6 month deal.

You missed the boat, this was the time to demand the agent cut their margin. Your obviously too naïve to negotiate a rate rise later on

[heyya99]

I found out recently that my much more experienced colleague is on almost £200 per day less than me.

[I just need to test it]

That's what I want you to think. Now get the coffees in.