Jobserve/ Recruitment Agents

[MarillionFan]

"I will come around for the insurance, after all.... you don't want soft cushions to fall on you feet do you?" ? I dont understand?

Have to disagree with a part of Lukes posting.

Do phone the agent, normally 5 minutes after sending CV.

[xeon]

Thanks for the responses, I have only applied for jobs where there appears to be a good fit. I agree that agents probably get swamped with cv's but its the lies I cannot abide. Every other industry/ business has regulations they must comply with yet many agents act like cowboys and get away with it.

I do not think jobserve per se is the problem, it is the only site offering 'current' contractor vacancies for a start, albeit false ones. I think its the nature of modern recruitment that's the problem being on par with estate agents in my opinion.

As for rolling with the punches, living with it etc. Well I think that's ok for some but I believe that this sort of acceptance encourages dubious practises that ultimately hurt the independents so I would rather do something about it.

I sent a formal complaint re. one agency to REC but suprise suprise the agency isn't registered I will follow up with the dti... The cowboys need to feel the heat if they think lying, harassment etc.. is ok.

[Phoenix]

I do appreciate feedback and ideas for the next version release. (You need to register with valid email address)

How about outside the London area for the next version

[MarillionFan]

"I sent a formal complaint re. one agency to REC but suprise suprise the agency isn't registered I will follow up with the dti... The cowboys need to feel the heat if they think lying, harassment etc.. is ok."

Mmm. That would have gone straight in the bin. Live with it, move on is my advice. Agents are w-nkers, plain & simple.

[Spacecadet]

Only six months? Fast work...

I didn't make that very clear

I got an agency gig for six months, it was as that was coming to renewal that i got the direct contract

[ChimpMaster]

I didn't make that very clear

I got an agency gig for six months, it was as that was coming to renewal that i got the direct contract

One of the dilemmas in striving for direct contacts, is most or all of the big firms do not allow this. They all use intermediate preferred agencies, so even if you apply direct (or are introduced by an existing employee/contractor), the company's HR will force you through their preferred agency. Of course, this agency takes a reduced cut, but that's still 4 or 5% out of your pocket.

I've done this at several banking clients, where I've introduced contractors directly to IT management, only to have them pushed through agencies anyway.

[Spacecadet]

One of the dilemmas in striving for direct contacts, is most or all of the big firms do not allow this. They all use intermediate preferred agencies, so even if you apply direct (or are introduced by an existing employee/contractor), the company's HR will force you through their preferred agency. Of course, this agency takes a reduced cut, but that's still 4 or 5% out of your pocket.

I've done this at several banking clients, where I've introduced contractors directly to IT management, only to have them pushed through agencies anyway.

If you personally know the decision makers then its not a problem. And its B2B so why should HR get involved?

[errorista]

How about outside the London area for the next version

Yep, this would be good to do. Im afraid I still have no contract so have not been able to fund any immediate expansion of the hosting service. This is why Ive restricted it to London.

This may soon change in any case as I have been talking with someone who might be able to host the site free without my having to place banner ads.



Ill keep you posted.

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[interested]

If you personally know the decision makers then its not a problem. And its B2B so why should HR get involved?

Whatever the actual legal status of your company, the fact is that 'one man bands' are not perceived as genuine businesses by large companies and as such are dealt with differently.

And it's generally HR or Procurement acting on advice from company lawyers - most large companies want to push the risk onto a supplier that they actually trust. Who would you trust ' John Doe Computing Ltd' or an established PLC recruitment firm that they've done due diligence on?

[Spacecadet]

Whatever the actual legal status of your company, the fact is that 'one man bands' are not perceived as genuine businesses by large companies and as such are dealt with differently.

And it's generally HR or Procurement acting on advice from company lawyers - most large companies want to push the risk onto a supplier that they actually trust. Who would you trust ' John Doe Computing Ltd' or an established PLC recruitment firm that they've done due diligence on?

As i said, If you KNOW the decision makers. KNOWING implies some trust, so yeah they will trust your Joe Bloggs computing one man band company enough because they know and trust YOU.