Enforced Contractor Layoff in December

[northernladuk]

Permies would surely get paid for it.

Indeed hence the financial risk but it's still imposed to all so not a differentiator in its own right.

[unixman]

As a contractor and permy I have always taken long Christmas holidays in order to stay with family at the other end of the country. I like that contracting also means I have no on-call during Christmas.

[Bluespider]

Can't you just look at your bits and wish some were bigger and some were a bit smaller like everyone else does in the shower?

I wish I had a 12 incher... instead of this big thing.

[FatLazyContractor]

MoO is about work above and beyond the current contract, not while you are in it. This would come under financial risk...although you could argue it's trumped by D&C as permies have to do it as well. The reality is it is neutral as this an operation requirement by the customer that out of your control so can't use it as defense or a problem I'd say.

Fair point about MoO.

Looking at it from a different angle:

It is enforced on everyone. Permies get paid. However I don't get paid as I am not a permie. Hence I am not a permie.

That said, I haven't heard of a case that was won based on the above argument.

[psychocandy]

Probably wouldnt bother me. It happens.

Depends how desperately you need the money. I guess all you can do is take this into consideration at renewal time as to whether you want to stay or not bearing in mind they are going to do things like this.

Current client moans a bit that I take too many holidays! Tough.
Although just checked and took 27 days plus BH in last year. But then theres one guy here whos not taken a day off in three years as a contractor here. Sod that.

[northernladuk]

Probably wouldnt bother me. It happens.

Now we all know that is not true!!!

[psychocandy]

Now we all know that is not true!!!

Of course, I'd come on here and moan. I like moaning. I also like to upset you.

But I do like time off too!

[billybiro]

Do you think the weeks holiday you want should be in your contract?

Some clients certainly seem to think so.

Or at least, they can get very tetchy, pointing out the absence of such things in the contract when you tell them you're taking that holiday.

[NickNick]

MoO is about work above and beyond the current contract, not while you are in it. This would come under financial risk...although you could argue it's trumped by D&C as permies have to do it as well. The reality is it is neutral as this an operation requirement by the customer that out of your control so can't use it as defense or a problem I'd say.

Permies don't have to do it here, (in FS as well) it's only contractors that are kicked out over Xmas for 2 weeks.

[northernladuk]

Permies don't have to do it here, (in FS as well) it's only contractors that are kicked out over Xmas for 2 weeks.

I've been part of one of these at a bank as well but the OP did clearly state the following..

It's an FS Company so I get that there has to be a 2 week lie period for every employee, Permie or contractor, within a 12 month period, to

You are right the contractor only situation is different but was talking about this specific instance.