Other department interested, but SDC nightmare

**BolshieBastard** · 27 August 2015, 10:20

Originally posted by NibblyPig View Post

Done a two months work for this huge corporation, one month then an extension. No SDC whatsoever, project was clearly defined, my work was well defined, completely left alone to do it other than a weekly progress report to check everything is on schedule. Coming to an end now as they're ready to go live.

Other dept is interested, spoke to them, and it's an IR35 red flag - they 'need more people' and tasks will be 'day to day tasks' and 'some new projects as they appear here and there' and also 'mentoring some of the junior members of the team'.

Better to explain why I'm declining (SDC) or make up some other excuse? Or is there any way to persuade them to hire me in a way that doesn't violate SDC? Thoughts on this welcome.

SDC isnt an issue yet. If you're working in an Agile environment, arent tasks given out daily anyway?

**NibblyPig** · 27 August 2015, 10:39

I was hired to complete a specific project, no agile environment, I was told on day one which features I had to complete, and then was left to my own devices to complete them. While I was stuck waiting for information from 3rd parties, I spent time clearing out a backlog of bugs in TFS. No supervision, no direction, no control.

But the new department just need more manpower, performing whatever tasks are required by the business (direction) in whatever order they deem fit at the time (control). An exact quote was 'we need more permies but it is easier to get contractors'

Unless I am misunderstanding SDC?

**jamesbrown** · 27 August 2015, 10:59

Originally posted by NibblyPig View Post

I was hired to complete a specific project, no agile environment, I was told on day one which features I had to complete, and then was left to my own devices to complete them. While I was stuck waiting for information from 3rd parties, I spent time clearing out a backlog of bugs in TFS. No supervision, no direction, no control.

But the new department just need more manpower, performing whatever tasks are required by the business (direction) in whatever order they deem fit at the time (control). An exact quote was 'we need more permies but it is easier to get contractors'

Unless I am misunderstanding SDC?

What you're perhaps misunderstanding is that SDC is only one component (control) of the current IR35 regime, and only one component needs to be demonstrated (in principle) to support an outside position. That said, there are a few red flags in your OP and obviously a high degree of SDC.

**Sausage Surprise** · 27 August 2015, 15:05

Suck it up..keep invoicing

**LondonManc** · 27 August 2015, 15:17

If there's an end deliverable (e.g project, product, service provision implementation) then get that into your contract and that an agile approach is being taken so tasks are subject to revision on a weekly basis or some such.

**Snarf** · 27 August 2015, 19:52

I've had a similar issue, where I'm working on two projects for one client, the tasks are doled out frequently as the priorities etc change.. Advice from QDos was to essentially get them in general terms into a statement of work at the start of the month and get it signed off as being what will be worked on for the next month's invoice.

So I have "UAT Support" as an item, this covers fixing any tasks that come out of the user testing phase of the project.
I have "analysis and design product x" which may cover me writing 3-4 tech specs during the month.

At the end of the month the invoice has a line for each item breaking down the cost per item.

Of course everyone knows in the real world, especially in IT priorities change etc.. As long as you have something to show roughly what your going to be doing you should be ok..

Other department interested, but SDC nightmare