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Why people donot get feedback about outcome of their application???

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    #11
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    Originally posted by DTexas View Post
    We're approaching a point with feedback whereby no company will offer any at all, or they will be so bland and useless they won't be worth anything to the candidate. Just like how references have gone. Companies too afraid to tell the truth, as they see it as a 'risk' to state their opinions about someone.
    Many people here and elsewhere will be quite glad of that I suspect.

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      #12
      They always give you feedback.

      Positive feedback - You get the job offer.

      Negative feedback - You didn't.


      What other "feedback" do you want?

      Why do you think they should waste their time telling you what they thought? Are you paying for their time?

      They've already wasted enough of their time interviewing you. What's in it for them?

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        #13
        Do you reply to every rubbish email you get for contracts that don't match your you skillset?

        Well done if you do...
        "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
        - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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          #14
          Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
          They always give you feedback.

          Positive feedback - You get the job offer.

          Negative feedback - You didn't.


          What other "feedback" do you want?

          Why do you think they should waste their time telling you what they thought? Are you paying for their time?

          They've already wasted enough of their time interviewing you. What's in it for them?
          This.

          Feedback might have happened in the past, and maybe some companies still will, but for the most part it's just not worth it for them.

          I've no idea what current stats are like but I always hear advertised roles can get over 100 applicants. Depending on how many active roles an individual agent is working, there just isn't time to get back to everyone, never mind the fact there is nothing in it for them.

          This is also the reason companies want (need!?) agencies, they don't want Susan DevManager having to field emails/calls from Johnny Notagoodfit candidates.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Lastlonger View Post

            The question is: - Why Recruitment Agencies and the organisations cannot be bother to write couple of sentence to say “We sorry but your application is not successful for this and that reason”. Surely this is not complicated.
            Seriously, do you really think you are the only person contacting companies and agents?
            I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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              #16
              Originally posted by Midland White View Post
              It's just the way it is. But you decided to send out hundreds of CVs to prospective employers as an experiment - with no intention of taking an interview or job if offered? Somewhat pot calling kettle is it not?
              It has nothing to do with Pot or the Kettle...

              It was just a small scale experiment I did some calls this Market Research. I had a time over the weekend when kids were out and I have done so... I agree with you "its just the way its", but it will be helpful to get some form of feedback... I am not talking about recruitment agencies, I am actually talking about the companies who are the worst culprit to this process. even though people take their time to fill their 12 page application forms... IF you don't find that annoying I would take my hats off and you must be Saint.

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                #17
                Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
                Seriously, do you really think you are the only person contacting companies and agents?
                NO, but they are the ones who put an advert out...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by rocktronAMP View Post
                  Get over it!

                  Advice:

                  Start a self-marketing spreadsheet. Note down the agents and responses over a time (weeks in the year). Use or learn conditional formatting to turn abbreviations into colours as you mark the cells. NR becomes No Response (Red), ACT (Agent Contacted me by Telephone) , ACE (Agent contacted me by Email) in green, ICAE (I COntacted Agent by Email) .... you get the idea. Keep on filling in this spreadsheet for every agent, connection, networking contact and every conversation. Sometimes you will not have a computer, so always use pen paper or grey matter memory. Over time, a period of months or even years, you will build data chart that you can glance at. You will see the chalk from the cheese in other words. A spreadsheet is better unless you want to keep a massive chart in your living room.

                  Already been doing this for the last 2 years:

                  What they say What goes around come around. when I work for a company and be friend with people and tell them the ones who are bad apple not to bother working with them and most are taking credit for this type of info. Perhaps I told you too, never know who we are talking with in this small world...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
                    They always give you feedback.

                    Positive feedback - You get the job offer.

                    Negative feedback - You didn't.


                    What other "feedback" do you want?

                    Why do you think they should waste their time telling you what they thought? Are you paying for their time?

                    They've already wasted enough of their time interviewing you. What's in it for them?
                    I am not talking about interview feedback, I have always received feedback from my interviews whether I have successful or not. Annoying thing is that when after completing 12-15 pages of application form people don't hear back.

                    P.S. I don't apply jobs that's need require for me to fill in forms, even electronically, that's my principle and I wont change that even if that the job paying very well money.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tractor View Post
                      "Over time, a period of months or even years, you will build data chart that you can glance at" and realise what a waste of time and effort it all is and wish you had done something sensible instead.

                      FTFY


                      I guess the OP is not at the stage where he or she is even getting interviews or face-2-face yet. I will modify my advice, then. Make the spreadsheet biased to 'their' behaviour and not yours. (Of course that does not mean that you do not have to modify yours!)

                      Play the game of top trumps sort of

                      OFF offer is the champion
                      F2F trumps a TI (Face 2 Face is better than a Telephone Interview)
                      AT trumps IT (Agent telephone me (you) is better than I called the agent)
                      AE trumps IEA (Agent email me (you) is better than a I email the agent)

                      You get the idea

                      If you play the game for even week or a fortnight as you say that are doing, I bet you will see maybe a real gem in there.

                      Best of all with Google spreadsheets, you add notes and comments to the individual cells that you can see at a glance. Search the Internet for examples of these campaign spreadsheets. You might find weird things like political or web marketing sheets, but persevere.


                      The people responding in other replies in this thread have also good advice. If you are not getting feedback or replies initially then you are spreading your marmalade thinly! You are not targeting the jobs that reflect your core strengths.

                      When you start to getting regular telephone interview and then F2F and the feedback is not coming back from the clients, most importantly, and the agents then I do agree that you have a bigger problem. I think most people reading this thread here would also think that is a problem. Because how does anyone know what they should improve on lest they receive some true feedback? However you (the OP) need to be getting to second and third stages of these interviews.

                      PS: my advice is works perfectly for permanent roles too.

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