On what basis can an agent be sacked?

**tractor** · 23 October 2014, 16:45

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Originally posted by DTexas View Post

Dear all,

A general query here. In the last 2 years I have been lied to by agents. Even worse, they've lied to clients about me. On one occasion, I believe they were trying to sabotage my application as agent wanted to push his chum into the job instead. Maybe as his chum wanted less cash. Or maybe because he was his chum.

If it can be proven with email evidence that the agent has lied to clientco that I don't want the job anymore etc. can the agent get sacked and the job offer reinstated without the agent involved?

Only the employees employer can sack someone so you should ask the agent's employer.

How can the agent sabotage your application? Did you get an interview? Were you offered the role? If you were not you would have a good job proving it.

Accept it, move on. Complain to the agent's boss if you must but don't expect any return and put them on your blacklist if you must.

Business is tough.

**DTexas** · 23 October 2014, 16:51

tractor, let me put a more specific situation.

Say some agency or other puts your CV onto client co every 2-3 months for something or other. One day, the agency gets back to you in shock saying they've offered you the job. No interview required. Well done.

You say, great thanks. Then, you start to realise the agent is not so keen on it all. They start asking who your contact is in there and are uneasy you have a contact there. You get the impression they would rather have pushed someone else in for this. You see the agent working against you not for you, setting you up for a fall in the screening process. Not forwarding your evidence to the screeners. etc.

The agent tells you the screeners require disclosure a particular documentary evidence of a highly private nature or the job offer is withdrawn. You've already told the agency you have no such document to disclose and that the request is unreasonable. The agent says if you can't come up with this they will have no other choice but to inform the clientco you are unable to take up the job offer. You tell the agent they will do no such thing, since you are not rejecting the job but find the request wholly unreasonable and want to discuss the requirement or seek alternative. Then agent says also if you contact the screeners directly to discuss this matter, then the job offer will be withdrawn immediately.

Then you find out the agent has told the screeners you are unable to take up the job. All of this without your consent.

Surely this is a basis for getting the agency sacked and go through another? But would the job offer need to be withdrawn and made again but this time to the new agency, or to you direct?

**stek** · 23 October 2014, 16:57

Forget it you're not a permie.

**Scruff** · 23 October 2014, 17:03

ERM... Contact the client and see what the agent has told you is the truth firstly? If they have offered you the role then you'll have a contact there, surely?

**DTexas** · 23 October 2014, 17:07

Originally posted by Scruff View Post

ERM... Contact the client and see what the agent has told you is the truth firstly? If they have offered you the role then you'll have a contact there, surely?

I have a contact there but that contact is not the one who made the job offer.

I have no letter or email from the clientco or the screeners confirming the job offer is withdrawn or that the screening has failed. Only this agent's word that the job is withdrawn.

**stek** · 23 October 2014, 17:14

Job?

**tractor** · 23 October 2014, 17:15

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Originally posted by DTexas View Post

tractor, let me put a more specific situation.

Say some agency or other puts your CV onto client co every 2-3 months for something or other. One day, the agency gets back to you in shock saying they've offered you the job. No interview required. Well done. Clearly, there is a lot of history there. If an agent failed me every 3 months when I already had a contact there, I would see the writing on the wall and get another agent. If the agent has sole contract then I would inform the client via my contact long ago.

You say, great thanks. Then, you start to realise the agent is not so keen on it all. They start asking who your contact is in there and are uneasy you have a contact there. You get the impression they would rather have pushed someone else in for this. You see the agent working against you not for you, setting you up for a fall in the screening process. Not forwarding your evidence to the screeners. etc. None of the stuff I have emboldened is evidence of anything.

The agent tells you the screeners require disclosure a particular documentary evidence of a highly private nature or the job offer is withdrawn. You've already told the agency you have no such document to disclose and that the request is unreasonable. The agent says if you can't come up with this they will have no other choice but to inform the clientco you are unable to take up the job offer. You tell the agent they will do no such thing, since you are not rejecting the job but find the request wholly unreasonable and want to discuss the requirement or seek alternative. Then agent says also if you contact the screeners directly to discuss this matter, then the job offer will be withdrawn immediately. This is gobbledegook. The only thing you may have been required to provide is a basic dislosure, anything more in depth and the agent would have had to apply for it and if they are not authorised they would have had to go through a provider that is. If they had already screwed it up for you, why wouldn't you go directly to the screeners anyway via your contact?

Then you find out the agent has told the screeners you are unable to take up the job. All of this without your consent. If you have the evidence, take them to court. You would find it difficult without a contract offer plus concrete evidence of any related action detrimental to your application. Oh, you will need deep pockets too.

Surely this is a basis for getting the agency sacked and go through another? But would the job offer need to be withdrawn and made again but this time to the new agency, or to you direct?

Disinstruct the agent, tell them to destroy their records of you, carry out a SAR and get another agent.

Sounds to me if the client really wanted you, you would already be there despite the agent. My advice? Forget it and move on.

In allt he time I have been contracting, I have never been asked to 'disclose anything of a highly personal nature'. I have no idea what this could possibly mean.

**Scruff** · 23 October 2014, 17:18

You can also make a Freedom of Information request to get all your records from the Agent, unless I am mistaken?

**tractor** · 23 October 2014, 17:19

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Originally posted by Scruff View Post

You can also make a Freedom of Information request to get all your records from the Agent, unless I am mistaken?

SAR = Subject Access Request

On what basis can an agent be sacked?