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    #11
    Bottom line is certification is just getting too expensive. If the pre-req is a course then how many contractors are going to shell out £2K for a course, a week non-billing etc. Not me anyway.

    Still balking at the idea of £400 for exam and half day not billing!
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      #12
      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
      Bottom line is certification is just getting too expensive. If the pre-req is a course then how many contractors are going to shell out £2K for a course, a week non-billing etc. Not me anyway.

      Still balking at the idea of £400 for exam and half day not billing!
      If you are worried about losing half a day can you not work late some days to make up for it. That is what I have done before.

      I don't personally bother with courses anymore. Don't feel it adds much nowadays.

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        #13
        I assume then you only care about getting a qualification for your CV then actually getting something useful from an instructor led course?

        Most experienced contractors will use bench time, or in your case dole time, to reskill so they don't lose "£2500+" a week in missed billing

        Quotation marks as if you are on £500 a day you are either a fantasist or a liar given your problems with money in the past
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          #14
          I make sure that I am up to speed with the latest buzz word and generally get a certification in something every 3 years as it keeps my rates up and ensures agents badger me, not the other way around. Last time it was Agile, this time it's COBIT.

          Consider that the next time your bum is warming the bench and you're on here complaining about it.
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            #15
            Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
            I assume then you only care about getting a qualification for your CV then actually getting something useful from an instructor led course?
            If you are after the knowledge, then there is something to be said for paying more and getting a real expert to run the courses, rather than someone who knows the training material really well.

            I remember asking our instructor a question about something and he said it wasn't possible. Three pages later in the course material it told you how to do it. But the guy running the training was a trainer, not an expert who was running a training course. There is a big difference between the two, and you never know who / what you are going to get.
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              #16
              Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
              I assume then you only care about getting a qualification for your CV then actually getting something useful from an instructor led course?

              Most experienced contractors will use bench time, or in your case dole time, to reskill so they don't lose "£2500+" a week in missed billing

              Quotation marks as if you are on £500 a day you are either a fantasist or a liar given your problems with money in the past
              Nope. Don;t need the courses just the certifications.

              Problems with money? I can't remember that one.
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                #17
                Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                Nope. Don;t need the courses just the certifications.
                You'll have to pay for them, then, and stop moaning.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                  You'll have to pay for them, then, and stop moaning.
                  Umm. Yes obviously.
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
                    I assume then you only care about getting a qualification for your CV then actually getting something useful from an instructor led course?

                    Most experienced contractors will use bench time, or in your case dole time, to reskill so they don't lose "£2500+" a week in missed billing

                    Quotation marks as if you are on £500 a day you are either a fantasist or a liar given your problems with money in the past
                    Absolutely this! Companies fail through lack of investment for the future and this is a perfect example how exactly the same will happen to contractors. Time moves on and you have to keep up. You can't sit on your arse and expect knowledge of aging technology to keep you going for the rest of your life. All these numbers are reduced due to tax gains as well don't forget. £2.5k course to be in contract for the next couple of years is absolute peanuts.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      Absolutely this! Companies fail through lack of investment for the future and this is a perfect example how exactly the same will happen to contractors. Time moves on and you have to keep up. You can't sit on your arse and expect knowledge of aging technology to keep you going for the rest of your life. All these numbers are reduced due to tax gains as well don't forget. £2.5k course to be in contract for the next couple of years is absolute peanuts.
                      Agree with NLUK. I have used previous bench time to complete various certifications, although reading of manual + exam only, without the actual teaching bit, as not seen as being necessary.

                      Although given current bench time, I think I could end up with a PhD at this rate...
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