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    #11
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    It isn't a given that chopping the agent out of the loop means the contractor gets more. There might be a limit of £400 per day for the contactor but if the client uses an agent he covers the agents cost.
    In my experience, going direct can yield a higher rate as there is generally more negotiating headroom. You need to think like a business.

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      #12
      Originally posted by ITPRO2 View Post
      In my experience, going direct can yield a higher rate as there is generally more negotiating headroom. You need to think like a business.
      And thinking like a business the client shouldn't be paying a contractor the same as the rate he pays an agency for the same contractor. Just because the client is saving the agents costs doesn't mean the contractor should expect to get them. The client will have to carry out the work and agent would which costs him money.
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        #13
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        And thinking like a business the client shouldn't be paying a contractor the same as the rate he pays an agency for the same contractor. Just because the client is saving the agents costs doesn't mean the contractor should expect to get them. The client will have to carry out the work and agent would which costs him money.
        As a company director, you should consider yourself obliged to protect the interests of the shareholders. This means identifying areas where you can enhance the company's bottom line. In this situation, if the client wants your companies services you need to negotiate harder than normal, as the rewards can be sweeter.

        I guess it depends how much like a "real" business you want to be?

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          #14
          Originally posted by ITPRO2 View Post
          As a company director, you should consider yourself obliged to protect the interests of the shareholders. This means identifying areas where you can enhance the company's bottom line. In this situation, if the client wants your companies services you need to negotiate harder than normal, as the rewards can be sweeter.

          I guess it depends how much like a "real" business you want to be?
          Well yes - but that is a two way street; the other side has an interest in paying as little as possible to maximise their bottom line...
          Blog? What blog...?

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            #15
            Originally posted by malvolio View Post
            Well yes - but that is a two way street; the other side has an interest in paying as little as possible to maximise their bottom line...
            By going direct, both parties can effectively increase their respective bottom lines. Agents are just leaches.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ITPRO2 View Post
                By going direct, both parties can effectively increase their respective bottom lines. Agents are just leaches.
                leeches

                Unless you are implying that Cary Grant was an agent.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ITPRO2 View Post
                  By going direct, both parties can effectively increase their respective bottom lines. Agents are just leaches.
                  No you can't.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                    leeches

                    Unless you are implying that Cary Grant was an agent.
                    OT but, my kids go to the same school that he did, and every day walk past a plaque with his name on. There's another inside that bigs him up and it's a well known and presented fact at the school. There is a smaller plaque with an equation written on it. Just shows how highly one profession is taken over the other these days.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by evilagent View Post
                      No you can't.
                      By cutting out the middleman, how can this not be true?

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