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Isn't it time to let this go?
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThe UK was in the EU when it started its vaccination programme.Comment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostIndeed the UK was actually under EU law when the contracts were agreed. So no it would have made no difference, and there would have been a spat. In other words this was not due to Brexit. Other EU countries also have their own national contracts with vaccine suppliers. The difference is that the UK put exclusivity in their terms and conditions. This is not prohibited under EU law.
If the UK had been in the EU the EU wouldn't have been able to impose export restrictions so in fact the UK would have been in a better position. Other countries would have complained but legally there would have been nothing they could have done,
Had we still been in the EU, or been stupid enough to join their procurement process we would have had to distribute it amongst the procurement block, which was practically every country, except the quasi-dictatorship, Hungary. The EU agreement was penned by the Germans/French/Dutch/Italians 3 months prior to EU's contract, and amazingly the EU went with the same contract (i.e. sat on it for 3 months).
In the grand scheme of things I wish we remained, however Brexit did enable us to go it alone on vaccine procurement, and the facts as they stand is that we're doing better than the shambolic EU effort. Given our covid statistics, I'm happy we got vaccines right.
The smug posts criticising the decision not to join EU's procurement are entertaining.Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View PostYou're intent on mental gymnastics on this particular topic aren't you.
Had we still been in the EU, or been stupid enough to join their procurement process we would have had to distribute it amongst the procurement block, which was practically every country, except the quasi-dictatorship, Hungary. The EU agreement was penned by the Germans/French/Dutch/Italians 3 months prior to EU's contract, and amazingly the EU went with the same contract (i.e. sat on it for 3 months).
In the grand scheme of things I wish we remained, however Brexit did enable us to go it alone on vaccine procurement, and the facts as they stand is that we're doing better than the shambolic EU effort. Given our covid statistics, I'm happy we got vaccines right.
The smug posts criticising the decision not to join EU's procurement are entertaining."A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George OrwellComment
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Originally posted by Paddy View PostThe EU, procurement process was voluntary however, all 27 countries signed up to it. Any EU country could have chosen to go-it-alone. We are too close to Europe to rely on just the UK to be properly vaccinated. The whole of Europe needs to be vaccinated to the maximum before lockdown can fully be dispensed with.
And it's dishonest to say it was completely optional, the EU taking over procurement wasn't gentle, hence Germany being absolutely livid.
Time to take the blinkers off, the EU will be better for it.Comment
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Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View PostCould have? Historical options don't matter, here we are, this is what happened.
And it's dishonest to say it was completely optional, the EU taking over procurement wasn't gentle, hence Germany being absolutely livid.
Time to take the blinkers off, the EU will be better for it.
You may find this interesting...
"A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George OrwellComment
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Originally posted by Paddy View PostComment
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Originally posted by cojak View PostBut it's been less than a month.
During a pandemic when people can't travel.
And in January when people are paying off Christmas and haven't yet bought anything from Europe, and if they have are wondering why their packages are still stuck at the post office but haven't got around to finding out why...
Brexit: - I was asked to pay an extra GBP82 for my GBP200 coat - BBC News
No, there's much more entertainment to be had here.
"I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
- Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...Comment
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Originally posted by cojak View PostAnd I forgot to include Covid and vaccinations!
I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by pr1 View PostThe UK left the EU in Jan 2020
The fact that this is trumpeted as the main benefit of Brexit demonstrates the futility Brexit.Last edited by BlasterBates; 31 January 2021, 10:55.I'm alright JackComment
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