Keep music British!

[Platypus]

One band are currently putting their farewell to EU tour for this year as it will be economically impossible for them to tour in the future

This has to be utter rubbish. How does filling in visa forms make it economically unviable? Maybe they're just tulip.

[Mordac]

I've not performed in public for a while, although I almost did last Thursday in Nashville.

Almost, as in 'you checked with local law enforcement and decided 20-years to life in a Tennessee prison wasn't worth it'...?

[LondonManc]

The point is that they used to be able to do it without paying, proving income or filling out paperwork.
And it's not about comparing the UK with other countries of the world, it's about how the UK has decided to make it more difficult for musicians to come and play here.

You mean there's less chance of The Cheeky Girls equivalents?

[darmstadt]

This has to be utter rubbish. How does filling in visa forms make it economically unviable? Maybe they're just tulip.

Because it's a lot more than just filling in a visa...

These costs include:

• Carnets – temporary international customs documents that allow instruments and sound equipment to move temporarily outside the UK – which cost in the region of £500-700, depending on the value of the goods. It is currently possible to take instruments to countries in the EU for free and purchasing a Carnet is a significant extra cost to be forced upon musicians which would become a huge barrier for many musicians touring the EU27.
• Private medical insurance, which would become essential in a 'bare bones' deal scenario as EHIC provision would cease, would set a musician without a pre-existing medical condition back around £70 per year, but it could be as high as £320 for a musician with a pre-existing medical condition.
• Musical Instrument Certificates, which are only required for instruments containing endangered species according to CITES (including ivory, Brazilian rosewood, tortoiseshell) are currently free but are set to incur a charge in 2020 (amount unknown). Examples: some violin bows contain ivory and some guitars contain Brazilian rosewood.
• Musicians who drive to the continent will need to purchase an International Driving Permit costing £5.50.
• If A1 forms become obsolete after 31 December 2020, musicians must also ensure that they are not liable for double deductions of social security payments in other EU countries by contacting the relevant EU social security institution to check.
• If visas are introduced to work in the EU27/EEA, this is likely to cause considerable financial and administrative burden to musicians.

[Platypus]

Because it's a lot more than just filling in a visa...

Thanks!

[darmstadt]

Thanks!

For EU musicians coming to the UK there will also (probably) be more paperwork, for example:

- Apply for a visa £244 for each member.
- Provide proof, 90 days before applying, that they have £1,000 in savings unless they are 'A-rated'.
- Provide a certificate of sponsorship from an event organiser

[Mordac]

For EU musicians coming to the UK there will also (probably) be more paperwork, for example:

- Apply for a visa £244 for each member.
- Provide proof, 90 days before applying, that they have £1,000 in savings unless they are 'A-rated'.
- Provide a certificate of sponsorship from an event organiser

Given that most of the music coming out of the EU is utter crap, I'm not seeing much of a downside here...

[darmstadt]

Given that most of the music coming out of the EU is utter crap, I'm not seeing much of a downside here...

Do you have proof of that or did you just read it in the Mail? Most UK music seems to just crap now as well (or am I just getting old?) so that's nothing to be proud of...In fact have a look at the top 20, there only seems to be 5 or 6 different artists in it

Not long to Eurovision now, wonder how the voting will go this year...

[Paddy]

Given that most of the music coming out of the EU is utter crap, I'm not seeing much of a downside here...

You are a really ignorant f#####

[BR14]

word.

rammstein.


pish