Boris's cunning plan.

[sasguru]

Parliament prorogued, then May's turd polished and put to the vote, with not much time left (with the EU accepting some flannel weasel words on the backstop).
He's hoping for a narrow victory at that point as the alternative is worse.

[Old Greg]

Parliament prorogued, then May's turd polished and put to the vote, with not much time left (with the EU accepting some flannel weasel words on the backstop).
Hoping for a narrow victory at that point as the alternative is worse.

What will make the gammons angrier: parliament delaying Brexit or Johnson submitting to vassalage?

[sasguru]

What will make the gammons angrier: parliament delaying Brexit or Johnson submitting to vassalage?

Depends on the presentation:

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ster-plan.html

Your average Brexiter is thick as mince and will accept a "we have won on the backstop" argument from Boris.

Its impossible for him to have any other plan in the time left, and he has strongly hinted this is the only barrier.

[Hobosapien]

The plan to deliver brexit by the 31st October is now obvious and real.

1. Force a minority government by removing whips from the rebel tories, nullifying the reliance on the DUP.
2. Amend the Withdrawal Agreement to remove the backstop and replace it with a NI/GB border in the Irish Sea. The 'NI backstop' as touted in the media.
3. EU agree to the amended Withdrawal Agreement as the Irish Sea border was their idea tabled in the early days of the negotiations.
4. Stormont is re-instated so the RoI and NI can decide the fate of Ireland regarding unification and the relationship with the EU.
5. GB (England, Scotland, Wales) breaks away from the EU allowing a move to trade deal negotiation with the EU, USA, and others.
6. A new GE is called to get the majority back without the DUP, to shut Corbyn up and force his removal. Labour won't be able to proceed with him as leader after losing a GE to both May and Johnson.

Sorted.

What's not to like?

[CryingSheep]

The plan to deliver brexit by the 31st October is now obvious and real.

1. Force a minority government by removing whips from the rebel tories, nullifying the reliance on the DUP.
2. Amend the Withdrawal Agreement to remove the backstop and replace it with a NI/GB border in the Irish Sea. The 'NI backstop' as touted in the media.
3. EU agree to the amended Withdrawal Agreement as the Irish Sea border was their idea tabled in the early days of the negotiations.
4. Stormont is re-instated so the RoI and NI can decide the fate of Ireland regarding unification and the relationship with the EU.
5. GB (England, Scotland, Wales) breaks away from the EU allowing a move to trade deal negotiation with the EU, USA, and others.
6. A new GE is called to get the mojority back without the DUP, to shut Corbyn up and force his removal. Labour won't be able to proceed with him as leader after losing a GE to both May and Johnson.

Sorted.

What's not to like?

What about the unity of the UK!? That seems to be missing in all that theory...

Plus, who would vote for that deal!? Even DUP wouldn't...

[Old Greg]

The plan to deliver brexit by the 31st October is now obvious and real.

1. Force a minority government by removing whips from the rebel tories, nullifying the reliance on the DUP.
2. Amend the Withdrawal Agreement to remove the backstop and replace it with a NI/GB border in the Irish Sea. The 'NI backstop' as touted in the media.
3. EU agree to the amended Withdrawal Agreement as the Irish Sea border was their idea tabled in the early days of the negotiations.
4. Stormont is re-instated so the RoI and NI can decide the fate of Ireland regarding unification and the relationship with the EU.
5. GB (England, Scotland, Wales) breaks away from the EU allowing a move to trade deal negotiation with the EU, USA, and others.
6. A new GE is called to get the majority back without the DUP, to shut Corbyn up and force his removal. Labour won't be able to proceed with him as leader after losing a GE to both May and Johnson.

Sorted.

What's not to like?

And pass all the necessary legislation before 1 November.

[sal]

What about the unity of the UK!? That seems to be missing in all that theory...

Plus, who would vote for that deal!? Even DUP wouldn't...

UK is fooked anyway. Better start planning for hard border between England and Scotland.

[CryingSheep]

UK is fooked anyway. Better start planning for hard border between England and Scotland.

Not saying that that would bother me, just saying that 'the unity of the UK' was used before by the Tories to reject anything that would involve any kind of border between NI and the rest of the UK!

[TestMangler]

Not saying that that would bother me, just saying that 'the unity of the UK' was used before by the Tories to reject anything that would involve any kind of border between NI and the rest of the UK!

There's the problem right there.....

[sasguru]

The plan to deliver brexit by the 31st October is now obvious and real.

1. Force a minority government by removing whips from the rebel tories, nullifying the reliance on the DUP.
2. Amend the Withdrawal Agreement to remove the backstop and replace it with a NI/GB border in the Irish Sea. The 'NI backstop' as touted in the media.
3. EU agree to the amended Withdrawal Agreement as the Irish Sea border was their idea tabled in the early days of the negotiations.
4. Stormont is re-instated so the RoI and NI can decide the fate of Ireland regarding unification and the relationship with the EU.
5. GB (England, Scotland, Wales) breaks away from the EU allowing a move to trade deal negotiation with the EU, USA, and others.
6. A new GE is called to get the majority back without the DUP, to shut Corbyn up and force his removal. Labour won't be able to proceed with him as leader after losing a GE to both May and Johnson.

Sorted.

What's not to like?

Points 2 and 3 are correct. 4 and 5 are garbage. 6, maybe

1. Boris (or rather Cummings) miscalculated how many Tories would rebel. Having a minority in the house led to all his defeats and the fact that he's now boxed in.
4,5. Not going to happen, but in the medium to long run, the UK has effectively ended. NI is difficult, but Scotland will no doubt eventually want join the EU and will do so.
6. I reckon a hung parliament is a strong possibility. Boris is losing support by the day with floating voters.