It’s the will of the people

**woohoo** · 28 July 2019, 08:34

Originally posted by WTFH View Post

Either through voting without thinking of the consequences, or not caring about the consequences.

Craigavon: Dissident republicans 'attempt to kill police' - BBC News

What is your point?

**Eirikur** · 28 July 2019, 08:50

Originally posted by woohoo View Post

What is your point?

The point is that the Irish border wil close in 95 days or so in case of no deal brexit and the troubles will start again

**Old Greg** · 28 July 2019, 10:13

Originally posted by Eirikur View Post

The point is that the Irish border wil close in 95 days or so in case of no deal brexit and the troubles will start again

It won't close. Go to the Korean DMZ if you want to see a closed border. And nobody knows whether the Troubles will start again.

It is very likely, however, to disrupt commerce, in particular the agri-food supply chain which is fully integrated across the border.

**Eirikur** · 28 July 2019, 10:17

Originally posted by Old Greg View Post

It won't close. Go to the Korean DMZ if you want to see a closed border. And nobody knows whether the Troubles will start again.

It is very likely, however, to disrupt commerce, in particular the agri-food supply chain which is fully integrated across the border.

If you ever have crossed the Irish - NI border during the troubles you know that it was pretty close to being closed, ofcourse traffic and people were allowed through but it took an awful long time
It was easier to cross the border between West and East Germany at the time

**Old Greg** · 28 July 2019, 12:47

Originally posted by Eirikur View Post

If you ever have crossed the Irish - NI border during the troubles you know that it was pretty close to being closed, ofcourse traffic and people were allowed through but it took an awful long time
It was easier to cross the border between West and East Germany at the time

But you have incorrectly assumed that the Troubles will restart to the extent where this is seemed necessary. And we don't know whether this is the case. There is certainly a risk but who knows what the likelihood is.

**AtW** · 28 July 2019, 15:31

Should be lots of money in smuggling.

And who would benefit from this inflow of cash?

**BrilloPad** · 28 July 2019, 15:58

Originally posted by Eirikur View Post

The point is that the Irish border wil close in 95 days or so in case of no deal brexit and the troubles will start again

The UK will never close the border. And I believe our friends in Ireland will not bow to their EU overlords.

**meridian** · 28 July 2019, 17:13

It’s the will of the people

Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post

The UK will never close the border. And I believe our friends in Ireland will not bow to their EU overlords.

It’s not about closing (or not closing) the border.

It’s about having an external border between two separate entities (the EU and the U.K.) outside of a single market / customs union / SPS regulatory system, and being able to control movement and reporting of goods across that border in either direction. At least, that is the economic/regulatory issue.

The wider political issue is the visibility of any controls, to the extent that they breach the GFA.

**BR14** · 28 July 2019, 17:20

Originally posted by meridian View Post

It’s not about closing (or not closing) the border.

It’s about having an external border between two separate entities (the EU and the U.K.) outside of a single market / customs union / SPS regulatory system, and being able to control movement and reporting of goods across that border in either direction. At least, that is the economic/regulatory issue.

The wider political issue is the visibility of any controls, to the extent that they breach the GFA.

tell that to the feckin IRA.

It’s the will of the people