Boris gets the check book out.

[WTFH]

OK, so how was ROI/NI trade handled prior to both the ROI and the UK being EU members? It must have worked satisfactorily, or was there considerably less of it than now?

Aha, finally you get to the question you should have been asking!

It worked by having border crossings and customs posts. It worked the way normal borders work. Freight vehicles queue up, go through checks and then proceed.
Take a look at freight traffic crossing the border between Switzerland and France.

It worked as satisfactorily as any hard border crossing does. Back in the 50s/60s the volume of goods flowing was considerably less than now and the urgency was less, so a 2-4 hour delay would mean Belfast to Dublin would take 8+ hours.
Add in the extra volume that makes the journey these days and the delays would be longer.

[original PM]

There were customs posts. However you are missing a lot of the point. Brexit will lead to a situation where NI is outside the EU, single market and customs union, whereas RoI is inside. And this will be a change from the status quo which is an integrated economy, where goods, livestock etc. flow freely.

But now you are back to the argument that we cannot do something because laws say we cannot.

As has been discussed before a 'law' is simple a rue created by humans and can therefore be changed quite happily as and when circumstances change.

So you need to go to the facts - do both the ROI and NI want to continue the free movement of said goods? Yes

Does anyone in England want to stop that free movement of goods? NO

So whose ******* tulipty views are we having to pander too?

[Old Greg]

Aha, finally you get to the question you should have been asking!

It worked by having border crossings and customs posts. It worked the way normal borders work. Freight vehicles queue up, go through checks and then proceed.
Take a look at freight traffic crossing the border between Switzerland and France.

It worked as satisfactorily as any hard border crossing does. Back in the 50s/60s the volume of goods flowing was considerably less than now and the urgency was less, so a 2-4 hour delay would mean Belfast to Dublin would take 8+ hours.
Add in the extra volume that makes the journey these days and the delays would be longer.

And work this one out. From cow to cup: Brexit and the threat to your milk’s cross-Border journey

[WordIsBond]

So you need to go to the facts - do both the ROI and NI want to continue the free movement of said goods? Yes

Does anyone in England want to stop that free movement of goods? NO

So whose ******* tulipty views are we having to pander too?

You think it would be OK for someone in Belfast to buy a chlorine-washed chicken from America, smuggle it across the ROI border in the boot of their car, and cook it for their friends in Dublin? The Irish blokes would overdose on chlorine because they've been eating chlorine-washed vegetables from the EU!

[Zigenare]

You think it would be OK for someone in Belfast to buy a chlorine-washed chicken from America, smuggle it across the ROI border in the boot of their car, and cook it for their friends in Dublin? The Irish blokes would overdose on chlorine because they've been eating chlorine-washed vegetables from the EU!

Given the state of domestic water supplies in Ireland, I would venture that chlorinated water would be most welcome.

[meridian]

But now you are back to the argument that we cannot do something because laws say we cannot.

As has been discussed before a 'law' is simple a rue created by humans and can therefore be changed quite happily as and when circumstances change.

So you need to go to the facts - do both the ROI and NI want to continue the free movement of said goods? Yes

Does anyone in England want to stop that free movement of goods? NO

So whose ******* tulipty views are we having to pander too?

The USA and China, mostly, via the WTO.

If the U.K. lets in all goods tariff, customs, and sanitary-check free from the EU (and vice-versa), why doesn’t it let in all goods the same way from other markets?

This, in essence, is what the WTO is about, setting standards to encourage free trade but also to allow remedies for distortions.

[Old Greg]

But now you are back to the argument that we cannot do something because laws say we cannot.

As has been discussed before a 'law' is simple a rue created by humans and can therefore be changed quite happily as and when circumstances change.

So you need to go to the facts - do both the ROI and NI want to continue the free movement of said goods? Yes

Does anyone in England want to stop that free movement of goods? NO

So whose ******* tulipty views are we having to pander too?

So hypothetically if Ireland or the UK changed current standards and legalised the sale of unpasteurised milk with risk of TB, without labelling it as such, the other country would just accept this and import this milk?

[JohntheBike]

So hypothetically if Ireland or the UK changed current standards and legalised the sale of unpasteurised milk with risk of TB, without labelling it as such, the other country would just accept this and import this milk?

In recent years we've seen pressure for vendors to list all sorts of information on their products, which essentially provides some information for the consumer to decide whether or not to buy the product. So why would there not be a similar situation with any import from any country in the future? If enough information is provided to the consumer, they can decide to buy or not. So if chlorinated chickens or un-pasteurised milk were to be imported from the USA and labelled as such, then surely the consumer would decide the fate of such a product. Remember what happened to egg sales after that silly women stated that all eggs contained salmonella. People still buy fags in great numbers, despite the known risks.

[darmstadt]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seventy-Two.../dp/0007198051

[WTFH]

Does anyone in England want to stop that free movement of goods? NO

So whose ******* tulipty views are we having to pander too?

Ah, so the people of England have 100% declared that they want to maintain free movement of goods, people and services with the EU.

As for whose views we are pandering to:
1. Those who voted for Brexit, whatever they meant exactly by that vote
2. Those that run the government
3. The DUP.