So why is it democratic to have two or even three votes on May’s deal but undemocratic to have 2nd ref?
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You can't disrespect the dead.Originally posted by AtW View PostSo why is it democratic to have two or even three votes on May’s deal but undemocratic to have 2nd ref?Down with racism. Long live miscegenation! -
https://assets.publishing.service.go...arge_print.pdfOriginally posted by AtW View PostSo why is it democratic to have two or even three votes on May’s deal but undemocratic to have 2nd ref?
on Slide/Page 20Originally posted by Government saysThis is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.
HTH BIDIOriginally posted by Old GregI admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf♕Keep calm & carry on♕Comment
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The simple answer is that the UK is a representative democracy. We vote for MPs to collectively make decisions for us.Originally posted by AtW View PostSo why is it democratic to have two or even three votes on May’s deal but undemocratic to have 2nd ref?
Whether they decide to give a second vote, or decide not to, or decide to give themselves two or three, it's democratic for the form of democracy that the UK has in place.Comment
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Bleat all you want. I answered the OP question.Originally posted by meridian View PostLeaflets are now part of the constitution?
After the government has spent £7 million on producing the leaflet, to be sent to every household, as part of the information on the referendum and they say "will implement".
It would be counter to democratic principles, yes.
Google, undemocratic.
HTH BIDIOriginally posted by Old GregI admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf♕Keep calm & carry on♕Comment
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No you didn't. See my second response to OP above.Originally posted by Bean View PostBleat all you want. I answered the OP question.
After the government has spent £7 million on producing the leaflet, to be sent to every household, as part of the information on the referendum and they say "will implement".
It would be counter to democratic principles, yes.
Google, undemocratic.
HTH BIDI
In addition, even if a leaflet were to be binding on a government (it's not), it wouldn't be binding on any subsequent government. The day that Cameron walked away is the day that the leaflet ceased to be relevant.
Edit: and to take your "argument" a step further, even if the leaflet statement that "we will implement what you decide" was binding, it doesn't preclude holding a second referendum over the type of exit.
We could argue all day about leaflets, or alternatively referendums being advisory not binding, etc, but at the end of the day none of that is relevant. We are in a representative democracy where our representatives decide what to do (within the legal and constitutional constraints).Last edited by meridian; 8 March 2019, 14:27.Comment
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Indeed we are. And our representatives decided, by means of a binary Referendum, to hand decision-making powers to the Electorate in this instance.Originally posted by meridian View PostWe are in a representative democracy where our representatives decide what to do (within the legal and constitutional constraints).
We await their implementation of said Referendum result.
And we are not holding our breath!


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Technically not true. In legal terms it was advisory, not binding. If it was binding then yes I would agree, but it was not.Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostIndeed we are. And our representatives decided, by means of a binary Referendum, to hand decision-making powers to the Electorate in this instance.
We await their implementation of said Referendum result.
And we are not holding our breath!



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When we find out what we're actually going to end up with, even brexiteers might fancy another referendum.
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