Decades of instability, violence on the streets

[shaunbhoy]

Seems to me that the U.K. has been nothing more than a whiny petulant child for the past while.

Thankfully, few people if any place any value on how things seem to you.
Probably because you have a colossal chip on each shoulder.

HTH

[yetanotherbob]

they're a vindictive spiteful lot

The EU institutions seem to be - what convinced me was the way they arrogantly labelled Gibralter a colony but don't seem to have a position on Catalonia and its political prisoners.
Europeans as such are fine - diverse, friendly and progressive overall.

But we're a resilient outgoing and friendly nation at heart that makes do and gets on

100% agree with that - and i have travelled around, seen the country up close over the years...

[Old Greg]

The EU institutions seem to be - what convinced me was the way they arrogantly labelled Gibralter a colony but don't seem to have a position on Catalonia and its political prisoners.
Europeans as such are fine - diverse, friendly and progressive overall.

100% agree with that - and i have travelled around, seen the country up close over the years...

It's all a bit politically correct snowflakery getting in a tizzy about 'colony' vs 'territory'.

[Whorty]

It's all a bit politically correct snowflakery getting in a tizzy about 'colony' vs 'territory'.

Had we been staying in the EU we could have forced what the document called Gibraltar. Now we're leaving, the EU can call it whatever they like Those evil, bullying Europeans ..... don't they know we hold all the cards

[meridian]

The EU institutions seem to be - what convinced me was the way they arrogantly labelled Gibralter a colony but don't seem to have a position on Catalonia and its political prisoners.
Europeans as such are fine - diverse, friendly and progressive overall.

100% agree with that - and i have travelled around, seen the country up close over the years...

Don’t just take the EU’s word for it, it’s what the UK called it as well. Learn some history while you’re here ;-)

[yetanotherbob]

Don’t just take the EU’s word for it, it’s what the UK called it as well. Learn some history while you’re here ;-)

That was before the two referenda in both of which, more than 99% of Gibraltar's residents voted to retain British sovereignty.
The first referendum of 1967 was called by the UN and the second in 2002 was about sharing sovereignty with Spain.

Gibraltar votes to remain with Britain – archive, 11 September 1967 | World news | The Guardian

[meridian]

That was before the two referenda in both of which, more than 99% of Gibraltar's residents voted to retain British sovereignty.
The first referendum of 1967 was called by the UN and the second in 2002 was about sharing sovereignty with Spain.

Gibraltar votes to remain with Britain – archive, 11 September 1967 | World news | The Guardian

And did the referendums change their constitution in any way? Or, if they were a colony before the referendum, what changed afterwards to change their technical status?

[meridian]

That was before the two referenda in both of which, more than 99% of Gibraltar's residents voted to retain British sovereignty.
The first referendum of 1967 was called by the UN and the second in 2002 was about sharing sovereignty with Spain.

Gibraltar votes to remain with Britain – archive, 11 September 1967 | World news | The Guardian

But don’t just take the EU’s, or the UK’s word for it. The UN (more politely?) calls it a “non self governing territory”, but under the heading “The United Nations and Decolonization”.

Why does it need decolonization if it is not a colony?

The United Nations and Decolonization - Committee of 24 - Non-Self-Governing Territories

[original PM]

The EU subversion of democracy contributed to recession in Italy

Interesting read really.

But don't forget the EU is like a big cuddly thing that should be loved and it has no intention whatsoever of subverting the democratic processes in its member states for its own benefit.

No siree none whatsoever.

Nothing to see here move along.

[emoji849]

[Whorty]

The EU subversion of democracy contributed to recession in Italy

Interesting read really.

But don't forget the EU is like a big cuddly thing that should be loved and it has no intention whatsoever of subverting the democratic processes in its member states for its own benefit.

No siree none whatsoever.

Nothing to see here move along.

[emoji849]

More brexiter deflection. Conversation is on one topic, and because they have nothing positive to say they attack the EU (or attack the poster).

Why not try and post something jolly about how good brexit will be?