Which country is more dysfunctional in 2019 : USA or UK?

[woohoo]

The EU doesn't have the power to interfere in the Catalonia question. Personally I think an independence referendum should take place. But I also think it is none of the EU's business.

The EU does have power to interfere in a states business.

[meridian]

The EU does have power to interfere in a states business.

Do you want to expand more on how that power is derived, and why it doesn't apply to Catalonia?

[Old Greg]

The EU does have power to interfere in a states business.

On the question of independence of a part of that member state?

[BlasterBates]

The EU does have power to interfere in a states business.

So does the WTO.

[Old Greg]

So does the WTO.

And the ECHR.

[original PM]

In what way is the UK in a bad way? Seriously, this doom and depressive attitude some of you have is totally unjustified. The UK is doing pretty darn well.

This - not sure why people think the UK is doing badly

In addition what is actually the problem in the US?

It seems to me that people are projecting their dislike for certain people onto a larger backdrop of the country being screwed.

[meridian]

On the question of independence of a part of that member state?

These are the same people that demand that "the EU" interfere in Catalonia, but would piss themselves with apoplexy if "the EU" dared to suggest that Scotland should have a referendum.

[Old Greg]

This - not sure why people think the UK is doing badly

In addition what is actually the problem in the US?

It seems to me that people are projecting their dislike for certain people onto a larger backdrop of the country being screwed.

Start with one point about the UK: nobody knows what the trade rules will be between the UK and the EU in two months' time.

[woohoo]

Start with one point about the UK: nobody knows what the trade rules will be between the UK and the EU in two months' time.

It will be figured out because business/finance control governments, at least in the western world. It's just a hurdle to be overcome. It doesn't alter the economics of a country with a sound basis in services and high tech engineering etc.

This does not mean the UK is in a mess, it's just a hurdle to jump and it will be.

[BlasterBates]

It will be figured out because business/finance control governments, at least in the western world. It's just a hurdle to be overcome. It doesn't alter the economics of a country with a sound basis in services and high tech engineering etc.

This does not mean the UK is in a mess, it's just a hurdle to jump and it will be.

Try telling that to the US farmers whose Soya Beans are rotting the fields because the US can't overcome its hurdle

You will see Trump cave to the Chinese in the next few weeks having achieved virtually nothing.

You will also see the UK cave as it tries to overcome the "hurdle" after a no deal.